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Jimmie Martin
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 8 Sep 2009 3:57 pm
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Would it be a bad idea to take a sho-bud professional and make it a sd-10 with pad. Would the value go way down or has it been done. Having the hole on the c-6th side would look bad wouldn't it? Give me some ideas please. I would appreciate that. Thanks in advance Jimmie ![Very Happy](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) |
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James Morehead
From: Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 8 Sep 2009 5:34 pm
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Hey Jimmie, Do it. Just save all the C6th parts so if you ever sell it, the new owner can put it back if he wants to. That's my take on it. Don't worry about the hole in the endplate. It makes a good point of conversation . ![Cool](images/smiles/icon_cool.gif) |
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Stan Schober
From: Cahokia, Illinois, USA
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Posted 8 Sep 2009 5:48 pm
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People do it with guitars that are more expensive, so why not? Just make sure that your new loafer pad doesn't require making new holes somewhere that would show if you ever want to convert back.
As far as the C6 endplate hole is concerned, I believe one of the manufacturers made their SD-10's with the standard two hole endplate for a while. It may have been ShoBud. |
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chris ivey
From: california (deceased)
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Posted 8 Sep 2009 5:50 pm
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don't do it! your steel will hate you. it will lose value. you'll lose parts. it won't look good.
get another steel...don't abuse a good one. |
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Gary Preston
From: Columbus, Ohio, USA
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Posted 8 Sep 2009 6:00 pm
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Jimmie i agree with Chris . But you already knew this right ? ![Razz](images/smiles/icon_razz.gif) |
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Jimmie Martin
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 8 Sep 2009 8:48 pm professional
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I'm going to see it through. I need 3 fingers complete to finish it. and i'm getting a used case for it but then its a matter of finishing it up. I have all of the barrels and tuners and some other things all shined up and polished. I don't think i have any fingers left. But that happens. I really do love to rebuild these sho-bud's if you can find them. I usually lose on it but its a lot of hours of fun and enjoyment. So i'll just finish it and make it a d-10. Anyone have 3 fingers? Jimmie
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Kevin Hatton
From: Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 8 Sep 2009 9:54 pm
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Call Jeff Surratt at Show Pro guitars. He's probably got some. |
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W. C. Edgar
From: Iowa City Iowa, Madison CT, Nashville, Austin, Phoenix, Nashville
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Posted 8 Sep 2009 10:08 pm
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I have a deep respect for thse guitars. Leave it the hell alone. I've seen too many guys over the years butcher D-10's just because at the time they don't play C6th. Take the time to learn it. You'll be a better man for it.
WC Edgar
www.wcedgar.com
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Jimmie Martin
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 9 Sep 2009 2:30 am sho-bud
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W.C. Edgar read up 3 posts. Thanks. I like em too, or is that also. Jimmie ![Rolling Eyes](images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif) |
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James Morehead
From: Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 9 Sep 2009 4:29 am
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W. C. Edgar wrote: |
I have a deep respect for thse guitars. Leave it the hell alone. I've seen too many guys over the years butcher D-10's just because at the time they don't play C6th. Take the time to learn it. You'll be a better man for it.
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I have a deeper respect for those who own the guitar and are trying to refurbish them. Jimmie Martin does a fine job, and is bringing this guitar back from unplayable to playable. It's called "PRIDE OF OWNERSHIP".
Really, WC, do you think taking out a hand full of screws and sticking a pad on it constitutes "butchery", when you can put those parts right back on and never know the difference in the end?? Sacrelidge of some kind??
I have less respect for folks who never clean these guitars up--grinding the parts into oblivion with lack of maintenance---play them into the dirt, and then cuss them 'cause they don't work anymore. |
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Richard Park
From: Alexandria, Virginia
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Posted 9 Sep 2009 4:32 am
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I'd take he strings off the C6 neck and make myself a prototype pad that straddled the neck from about the first fret to an inch away from the pickup and try that before I went any further. I'd hate to be sitting there with the new pad installed and wishing I'd left things as they were. |
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James Morehead
From: Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 9 Sep 2009 4:46 am
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Really, it's easy to do.
1) There are 3 screws that hold on the keyhead.
2) There are 8 screws that hold on the neck.
3) There are 4 screws that hold on the changer housing.
To install the pad, you can either use the same screw holes if you want, or use a contact cement and you are done with the topside. Turn the guitar over and unscrew the C6th side of the undercarrage. Voila--your done and your guitar is 18-20 lbs lighter. And completely 100% reverse-able.
It's no big deal. To each his own. |
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Bobby Burns
From: Tennessee, USA
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Posted 9 Sep 2009 5:05 am
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I'm with James here. If you don't play the C6 much, and don't like the weight, Why carry it around. If the weight will cause you to leave this beautiful guitar at home, instead of taking it out to play, then by all means take it apart. Just don't alter anything, and keep all the parts so that it can be put back later. You won't hurt anything if you do that.
Who knows, you might start a popular trend. Other players might like the idea so much that they start doing it to their guitars. New guitars may be designed to start out this way. No wait, A guy named Lloyd Green already had this idea. Too bad, just think of what he may have become if he'd left things alone and kept hauling around all that extra weight. ![Laughing](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) |
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James Morehead
From: Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 9 Sep 2009 5:46 am
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Thankyou, Bobby. I guess Lloyd Green was the first to "butcher" a shobud, huh??
Most of these old Professionals were issued with one or maybe two knee levers which makes the guitar unacceptable to todays standards of music.
I'd hate to be considered a "butcher" because I add a couple of knee levers to make a guitar suitable to todays music requirements. I say that because that procedure is much more invasive than putting a pad on a D10 guitar. Actually, putting a pad on isn't even "invasive", unlees you start drilling holes, which is unneccesary.
I have 5 knees on my professional, and will add a 6th this winter, and have refinished it to a beautiful natural hue which shows off the gorgeous birdseye maple. The original finish was ugly as well as badly damaged. I don't look at what I did to my guitar as "buthered". I hope ya'll don't either.
I bought my first Professional from Jimmie probably 4 years ago. I will tell you this, that Mr. Martin can refinish a cabinet like NOBODY'S BUISNESS. I thankyou once more, my friend, and much enjoyment from your new project, anyway you go with it!! ![Cool](images/smiles/icon_cool.gif) |
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