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Topic: I played the #8 Emmons PP |
Larry Behm
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Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 3 Sep 2009 8:04 pm |
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Russ Blake (Portland, Or) has the #8 Emmons PP, I had a chance to play 8 notes on it and heard him play for 2 hours. It is a bolt on wraparound, with wood necks. Sounded just great through a Standel SS/tube amp with a JBL 15.
Thanks Russ for some great music.
Larry Behm
Last edited by Larry Behm on 4 Sep 2009 6:05 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Skip Edwards
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LA,CA
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Posted 3 Sep 2009 8:39 pm
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A bolt-on wraparound? With wood necks?
Wow... |
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 3 Sep 2009 9:44 pm Re: I played the #8 Emmons PP
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| Larry Behm wrote: |
Russ Blake (Portland, Or) has the #8 Emmons PP, I had a chance to play 8 notes on it and heard him play for 2 hours. It is a bolt on wraparound, with wood necks. Sounded just great through a Standel SS/tube amp with a JBL 15.
Thanks Russ for some great music.
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Larry, I hesitate to bring this up, but you misspelled your own last name.  |
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Bryan Daste
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 3 Sep 2009 10:41 pm
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LOL!  |
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Ryan Barwin
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 3 Sep 2009 10:48 pm
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How can it be a bolt-on wraparound? Isn't it either a bolt-on OR a wraparound? I was under the impression that these were two separate types of P/P's?
Either way, that's very cool.
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David Mullis
From:
Rock Hill, SC
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Posted 4 Sep 2009 3:33 am
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| For some reason I was thinking all wood neck push pulls are bolt on. |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 4 Sep 2009 4:48 am
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I used to own that guitar. Terminology problem. It's not a wraparound, it's a wood neck with a bolt-on changer. Excellent sounding instrument.
I had too many 64-65 Emmonses that I never played and got tired of hoarding them. So I sold some stuff to a collector and bought a new bass boat, which I use much more than the gear that just sat in my living room. These things should be played by working players... anyway, it's just "stuff."
I still have my two wraparounds, which are metal neck guitars, that are my main working horns.
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My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg?
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Jon Light
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Saugerties, NY
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Posted 4 Sep 2009 4:58 am
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I saved this excellent presentation a long time ago. I profusely apologize for not providing credit---I can't recall whose work this is.
Last edited by Jon Light on 4 Sep 2009 6:20 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Larry Behm
From:
Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 4 Sep 2009 6:11 am
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I stand corrected, great pictures.
Larry Behm |
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Peter Freiberger
From:
California, USA
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Posted 4 Sep 2009 7:08 am
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| Just curious, does a bolt-on only attach the changer to the neck or does it also screw the pieces at each end of the changer into the body on either side of the pickup, like a cut-tail? And the wrap-around only attaches the changer to the body, with no connection to the neck? |
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Tommy Shown
From:
Denham Springs, La.
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Posted 4 Sep 2009 7:08 am
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| Herb Steiner wrote: |
I used to own that guitar. Terminology problem. It's not a wraparound, it's a wood neck with a bolt-on changer. Excellent sounding instrument.
I had too many 64-65 Emmonses that I never played and got tired of hoarding them. So I sold some stuff to a collector and bought a new bass boat, which I use much more than the gear that just sat in my living room. These things should be played by working players... anyway, it's just "stuff."
I still have my two wraparounds, which are metal neck guitars, that are my main working horns. |
Hey Herb,Let's go fishin'!!!!!!!!
I know wome places over here in Louisiana where the bass are hittin' BIG TIME |
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 4 Sep 2009 11:28 pm
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The reason why this guitar may be called a Wraparound Bolt-on is to distinguish it from the Bolt-ons made in late 1965 through 1967.
This #8 guitar, which I got from Herb Steiner last summer and sold to Russ last month, has a changer with the 1964 fat fingers and skinnier axles as generally found on the 1964 Wraparounds, and the changer is bolted to a wraparound neck section. The neck does not have a milled ledge for the axle pillows as found on the 1966-1967 Bolt-ons and the 1970s wood neck Bolt-ons. Compare the photos -- the newer Bolt-ons have bigger axle pillows to hold the larger diameter axles and to raise the strings to the correct height because there is a milled ledge in the neck insert. See how Emmons #8 has no milled ledge for the axle pillows? See #8s fat fingers with no washers?
Wood necks were an option on Emmons guitars in the 1964 brochure.
The only 1964 Emmons I know of with a full cast aluminum Wraparound neck and a Bolt-on changer is #14. |
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Jay Ganz
From:
Out Behind The Barn
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Posted 5 Sep 2009 5:25 am
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| Jon Light wrote: |
I saved this excellent presentation a long time ago. I profusely apologize for not providing credit---I can't recall whose work this is.
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Those would be my P/P's Jon. I posted those pics awhile back. Any pics of the bass boat Herb?  |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 5 Sep 2009 10:38 am
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Jay
Here ya go...
It's a Skeeter SX190, 18'6" with a 150 Yamaha V-Max, running a 23M prop. I got it up to 56.5 on the GPS at 5400 rpms with me only and a half tank of gas, but that's as fast as I want to go anyway. I'm in St.Louis now but I'll post a better photo when I get back home.
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My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? |
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Chris Bauer
From:
Nashville, TN USA
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Posted 5 Sep 2009 11:47 am
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Herb - Can you post sound clips?  |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 5 Sep 2009 2:46 pm
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Sound clips   
Chris, just to get this thread back onto a music topic, I'll quote Daryl Hall and John Oates... "No can do."
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My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? |
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Scott Hay
From:
Portland, OR / Yucca Valley, CA USA
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Posted 5 Sep 2009 11:23 pm
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I don't think we need sound clips of Herb's boat - looks like it has a Push Pull trailer with a bolt on hitch - so we don't need proof, it has to sound good, right?
Hi Larry! See ya on the 18th. |
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Larry Behm
From:
Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 6 Sep 2009 7:19 am
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I hate to high jack my own thread but Scott your Green Bud looks like a million bucks.
Larry Behm |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 6 Sep 2009 1:32 pm
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Scott
The trailer is all-pull. Except when I'm backing the boat into the lake, of course.
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My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? |
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Jay Jessup
From:
Charlottesville, VA, USA
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Posted 7 Sep 2009 9:42 am
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| OK since you guys are joking around, did anyone notice that in Larry's picture it seems this old Emmons is being run through a Sho-Bud volume pedal! Would this have Ron Sr (and maybe Shot to for that matter?) turning in his grave?? |
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Shorty Smith
From:
Columbus, Georgia, USA
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Posted 8 Sep 2009 7:51 am
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I have a 1973 Emmons cut tail, what is the difference in this one and a bolt on??
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Larry Bell
From:
Englewood, Florida
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Jeff Evans
From:
Cowtown and The Bill Cox Outfit
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Posted 8 Sep 2009 9:23 am
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what is the difference in this one and a bolt on??
The bolts |
And about $1200. |
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Shorty Smith
From:
Columbus, Georgia, USA
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Posted 8 Sep 2009 10:43 am
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| Why would there be a price difference between the cut tail and bolt on, Shorty |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 8 Sep 2009 10:54 am
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yeah shorty...look at the pictures of the changers closely for the difference.
and i don't get jeff's price difference either. |
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