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Topic: How low can it (Nashville tuning) go? |
Rich Peterson
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Moorhead, MN
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Posted 23 Aug 2009 8:56 am |
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Quite a few players, myself included, tune to D9th, for various reasons. I was wondering if anyone takes it lower.
I'm thinking that the limitation is the range of raise and lower on the 5th string. If you tune low enough that you have to use a wound string, it might be difficult on some steels to get the +2 on the A pedal, and the lowers of the "X" pedal and the Franklin pedal be out of the question. |
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Franklin
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 3:12 am
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Rich,
Do you use E9th guages for the D9th tuning? As long as you guage the strings to the key you can pretty much tune to ANY key using the E9th's signature tuning.
PF |
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Rich Peterson
From:
Moorhead, MN
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 4:19 am
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Yes, Paul. I determined the gauges using b0b's table.
I've read statements on here of the limitations of range on the smallest plain string, the 3rd, so I'm assuming that would also apply to the wound string with the smallest core, so you'd want that on the 6th string.
I guess I'll experiment by putting on a wound 5th string and see what it can do. Or just see how large a pull I can do on string 6 as I have it now. |
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Jerry Hayes
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Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 5:12 am
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Rich, Sneaky Pete used a B6th with E9th style changes which would be like having your 7th string on E9th moving a whole tone and then having another F# note an octave lower. Then your B pedal would be a D# note raised to E.
On my guitar and some other players we have the "Brumley" pedal which would raise the 7th string to G# and then you'd simply let off of the knee lever lowering the E's for the B pedal change. I've experimented with a lower register F# string before and raised it a whole tone but while it had it's moments I favored another pull down there.
So in answer to your post, the E9 changes would work on a lower pitched guitar even a C tuning if you wanted. What you could have would be a 10 string C9 tuning which would go this way (low to high) G Bb C D E G C E B D.........The high D string would be the same pitch as the 2nd string on E9 when lowered a half tone.
Your A pedal would raise strings 5 & 10 G to A
B pedal would raise strings 3 and 6 E to F
C pedal would raise string 4 C to D and string 5 G to A.
LKL could raise strings 4 & 8 C to C#
LKR could lower strings 4 & 8 C to B
etc. etc. etc.........JH in Va.
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Last edited by Jerry Hayes on 24 Aug 2009 9:04 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Franklin
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 6:42 am
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If you convert the E9th to C9th the notes are from top to bottom
D B E C G E D C Bb G
I think this was the tuning in question. The Pedabro I used on my CD was tuned to C9th and has all of my D10 E9th and C6th pedal changes.
The mechanics of the pulls work just fine in any key as long as the strings are guaged correctly.
Paul |
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Franklin
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 6:45 am
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I should also add for the sound of the Pedabro I locked in on D9th. C sounded OK. D seemed to record better.
I now have two Pedabro's. One is tuned to D9th and the other C6th. |
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Glenn Suchan
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 11:10 am
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Paul, your posts always make my day. Thanks for sharing your knowledge on the Forum, and best wishes for your dad's continued recovery. 
b0b, please excuse my 'topic drift' comment. Cheers! 
Keep on pickin'!
Glenn |
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