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Ray Kedge

 

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Post  Posted 20 Aug 2009 7:19 am    
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I had a single neck Emmons around 1971 I know it was P/Pull but it had 6 pedals and two levers. I have never seen one like it since, I had only just started playing at that time so what all the pedals and levers did I can't remember but it was a great guitar would anyone out there have one like it or know what the set up would have been I wish I could get it back now.

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Paul Wade


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Post  Posted 20 Aug 2009 7:41 am     emmons
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ray,
i think koos biel had a emmons like that at one time
you might want to get intouch with him fambiel@wanadoo.nl;

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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 20 Aug 2009 10:01 am    
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Many of the early Emmons S-10s came with 6 & 2. Mine was like that when I got it years ago, but I had it converted to 3 & 4 as soon as I got it. I can't remember what the pedal/lever setup was, but I do remember it felt awkward to me because I was used to a standard 3 & 4 setup. It looks like your's had the brown logo plate, like mine has.


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Cliff Kane


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Post  Posted 20 Aug 2009 10:08 am    
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Were these 6x2's sold for a C6 set-up? Or did E9 changes migrate from the feet to the knees?
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 20 Aug 2009 10:19 am    
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As far as I know they were E9, 6 pedals, and some of the changes were later moved to knee levers. I also remember seeing two of these S-10s that were 6 pedals, No knee levers. It's hard to know what was "factory" and what was user-modified. And I think buyers could order different knee lever/pedal setups.
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Damir Besic


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Post  Posted 20 Aug 2009 10:20 am    
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I had S-10 Sho Bud that was 6+2 but it was a C6 tuning...

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Micky Byrne


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Post  Posted 20 Aug 2009 2:01 pm     Re: Info on an Emmons
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Ray, you didn't get that Emmons from Eric Snowball's Steel Mill by any chance did you? because I had the very same model in that rosewood he loaned me for a few months while I was waiting for my new ZB to arrive. I was playing in Germany as we all did in the 70's and I called him and he said my ZB had arrived, so I had to return that Emmons when I got back to England. I too was a beginner then and I think the 2 knees worked the E's and the first 3 pedals were as per normal for E9th, I didn't have a clue what the others did Laughing

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Ray Kedge

 

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Post  Posted 20 Aug 2009 4:10 pm     Info on an Emmons
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Yeah that was the one Mick,I think you are right with regard to the knees,and the first three pedals, pedal 4 lowered the G# to F# 5 and 6 no idea.Might have been 1 and 7 raise F# to G. and the 2nd string and 9th lower.
Just what everyone has on knees these days.
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Micky Byrne


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Post  Posted 20 Aug 2009 4:27 pm     Re: Info on an Emmons
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Well Ray, guess we both had that very guitar for a while, though I can't remember who owned it first. I did a TV show in Hilversum Holland using that, and I recall a gig up north when I tried with my little knowledge of a push/pull to do some adjustments and all these little springs jumped out. I think that was in Redcar up North....Was one of the guys in the Picture Sam? and if so which one? Good days wasn't it...we were young!! Smile

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Bo Borland


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Post  Posted 20 Aug 2009 4:29 pm    
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those were the days... when dudes dressed like girls.. would you look at the britches
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Ray Kedge

 

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Post  Posted 21 Aug 2009 12:40 am     Info on an Emmons
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Micky,
Thats Sam on the far left,you didn't have to wear a Stetson in those days to play country music. I think at that time were doing a lot of Flying Burrito Brothers stuff,we used to do a whole show of country rock we added a drummer a few months after the pic.
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Micky Byrne


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Post  Posted 21 Aug 2009 1:39 am     Re: Info on an Emmons
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Ray, I thought that was him actually and it's nice you're still working with him 30 plus years later. Re material in those days, apart from the stuff by Buck and Merle I used to sing numbers by the "New Riders of the Purple Sage" songs like "Glendale train" ...seems Country has changed so much since those days. Some I like, most I don't!! I'll be at Harefield hospital on the 6th September for the 6 monthly check/up on the 7th...might pop in to see you for a cuppa. Ten and a half years now...how quick has it gone since you came to the 10 year party in March?? Surprised

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Ken Byng


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Post  Posted 21 Aug 2009 4:33 am    
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I had that guitar for a while too. Eric asked me to hold onto it to try to sell it. I remember not liking the sound as much as my ZB at the time (how tastes have changed!). I now have a push pull and I love the tone. Good photo Ray.

(PS You might try posting on the British Steelies Forum. That guitar is almost certainly in the UK somewhere)
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Nick Reed


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Post  Posted 21 Aug 2009 6:53 am    
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Ray
which one are you in the picture
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Ray Kedge

 

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Middlesex, England
Post  Posted 21 Aug 2009 10:24 am     Info on an Emmons
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Nick,
Playing Bass behind the steel just a mere kid then 21, bit older now. steel matches the shirt still.

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Bill Cook

 

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Post  Posted 22 Jan 2010 6:40 pm     Europe 70's
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Ray, What a small world. I met you in Nurnburg Germany in 1976 - 1978, sometime in that timeframe. You were playing in the Officiers Club with a band named Strange Blend. Ya'll had an album and I bought one and had ya'll autograph it. Having a Country Band in an Officer's Club was a big treat for me during that tour of duty in the Army. The NCO Clubs had Country bands, but the Officers Club seldom had a Country Music Band. I remember you playing "On top of old smokey, Somebody robbed the Glendale Train, Panama Red and others". One of the best nights I had the entire 3 years I was in Nurnburg. Glad I found you on The Forum.
Bill Cook, President, The Alabama Steel Guitar Association.
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Ernest Cawby


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Post  Posted 22 Jan 2010 10:36 pm     hi
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Bill I am waiting on his answer to you, give us a date on Alabana,

ernie
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Bobby Burns

 

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Post  Posted 23 Jan 2010 7:02 am    
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My first steel was a single neck Emmons with 6 pedals and no knees. I don't remember how it was set up. I think it was e9, but I had Herby Wallace put me some knees on it before I really learned to play anything.
I recently bought another one that has 6 pedals and 2 knees. I think one of the knees was added, and the pedals are pretty standard e9 changes. I don't have any idea if the pedals were set up this way originally, but this guitar has not been played in a long time.
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Bill Cook

 

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Post  Posted 23 Jan 2010 8:13 am     Ernie
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Ernie,
Working on Date. Looks like May now!!
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