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Alex Piazza

 

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Arkansas, USA
Post  Posted 19 Aug 2009 8:17 am    
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When I run my steel through my maxon analog delay and directley to my amp Im getting a really fuzzy almost distorted raspy sound when my volume pedal is fully engaged. I thought it might be my volume pedal, but if I run direct into the amp and have the delay through the effects loop it sounds fine at full volume. problem solved. Is this typical of running direct into analog delays??? Would a digital delay eliminate that problem?
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Jerry Hayes


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Virginia Beach, Va.
Post  Posted 19 Aug 2009 12:18 pm    
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Alex, do you have your delay before or after the volume pedal?......JH in Va.
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Alex Piazza

 

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Arkansas, USA
Post  Posted 19 Aug 2009 12:56 pm    
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jerry, Im running it after my volume pedal.
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David Nugent

 

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Gum Spring, Va.
Post  Posted 19 Aug 2009 1:02 pm     Delay
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I believe that the input signal from the guitar may be too strong and overdriving the pedal. There should be an adjustment on the pedal to cut the signal, (but IMO, if you continue to run the pedal through the effects loop you will obtain better results.)
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Justin Douglas


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Austin, TX
Post  Posted 19 Aug 2009 1:43 pm    
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this is exactly the problem - analog delays tend to all do this with steel guitars because the bucket brigade delay system is designed for guitar signals. my vintage boss analog delay does the same thing, as does my friend's MXR carbon copy.

i find the roland re-20 space echo pedal the best around for a great vintage sound and no dirt on the delayed signal.
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Alex Piazza

 

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Arkansas, USA
Post  Posted 19 Aug 2009 2:14 pm    
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thanks justin. that helps out. im gonna check out that roland re-20.
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Justin Douglas


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Austin, TX
Post  Posted 19 Aug 2009 2:19 pm    
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quite welcome. i should amend that the BEST delay (in my oh so humble opinion) is the real space echo (or a multivox if you can find it). i've got an old RE-201 and the new RE-20 pedal and have A/B'ed the two in the studio. nothing compares the tape, but the RE-20 sounds great and you can't beat that tap tempo!
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Alex Piazza

 

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Arkansas, USA
Post  Posted 19 Aug 2009 2:29 pm    
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justin. So the re-20 is not an analog delay? Or it just doesnt have the bucket brigade thing you mentioned that creates that noise.
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Justin Douglas


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Austin, TX
Post  Posted 19 Aug 2009 2:35 pm    
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no, it's a digital delay modeled after the Roland RE-201 space echo. so it's a delay with tap tempo and treble/bass controls as well as reverb. the delay modulates just a little bit to give that choursy tape sound and has all the different head combos that the original 201 had so you can get some funky dotted/triplet feel delays.

bobbe seymour did a video on it a while back:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JRRIUtKRCk

i use one on steel every night and love it.
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Alex Piazza

 

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Arkansas, USA
Post  Posted 19 Aug 2009 2:41 pm    
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Im sold!
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 19 Aug 2009 6:31 pm    
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Sounds like you're using a powered volume pedal. Of course, you could also be running the amp volume too low. Turn the amp volume up (past the mid-point) and the problem may disappear.

Powered pedals are sometimes set with their volume relatively high (by the manufacturer) so you'll be "impressed" with difference the pedal makes. Winking So turning down a powered pedal will help with the problem, too.

I remember a poster a few years back said he was really "impressed" by how much louder his powered pedal was than his old pot pedal was.

I laughed at that comment for about an hour! Laughing
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Justin Douglas


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Austin, TX
Post  Posted 21 Aug 2009 1:17 pm    
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alex,
there's one for sale at a tremendous price over in the used gear forum:

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=165068
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