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Topic: Fender Steel King / Peavey Nashville 112 |
Rich Swiger
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Nashville TN, USA
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Posted 1 Aug 2009 8:46 am |
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Hi everyone.
I would like a new amp. I have heard good things about the Fender Steel King and the Nashville 112.
I play a Sierra Session S-14 and it does require some power. I have a SB rack with a Profex2,700w amp and the two 15" BW speakers. Its greaat but its a lot to carry to gigs. When you count the seat its 5 items to fit in the car. The wife has to stay home because a speaker is in the front seat.
What would the my best choice Fender or Peavey?
Thanks in advance
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 1 Aug 2009 11:05 am
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Rich,I just got a FSK a few months ago and it seems to be a great amp so far,It has a lot of power.I friend of mine has a 112 and one of these days I'm going to borrow it and put it thru it's paces,I'm not sure how the 112 will handle those big fat chords at a loud volume compared to the FSK? 
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 1 Aug 2009 11:22 am
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My friend, Frank Parish; sounds better than ever when he uses his FSK Amp.! I think they are very good Amplifiers! However; due to the weight-difference, I choose to use 2-Peavey Nashville 112's. Also a very good amp., with a different sound than the FSK. Either one is fine, but; you have to consider the weight-factor, if you're an older person!
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KENNY KRUPNICK
From:
Columbus, Ohio
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Posted 1 Aug 2009 5:01 pm
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Get two Nahville 112's.  |
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KENNY KRUPNICK
From:
Columbus, Ohio
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Posted 1 Aug 2009 5:02 pm
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| Whoops, get my spelling right, two Nashville 112's. |
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 1 Aug 2009 7:52 pm
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| Will the Nashville 112 handle those big strings on the Sierra 14-stringer? |
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Rich Swiger
From:
Nashville TN, USA
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Posted 1 Aug 2009 9:55 pm Fender Steel King / Peavey Nashville 112
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I don't use the big strings much but it a big pickup to run. I haven't liked any of the amps I have had until the rack setup. It has the best sound and lots of power. Those fifteen inch black widows realy throw the sound to the back of the room. This guitar has problems with the midrange freqs. When you get the lower end at a useable tone the top bites too much. Thing is there is no one in The San Jose area that stocks any of these amps to try out. I hate to buy something then not like it.
Thanks guys.
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KENNY KRUPNICK
From:
Columbus, Ohio
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Posted 2 Aug 2009 12:01 pm
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| Lee, The Nashville 112 will handle the dynamics of all, E9th, C6th,and any of the universal tunings. |
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Mike Poholsky
From:
Kansas, USA
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Posted 2 Aug 2009 4:21 pm
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Hey Rich, I've had my FSK for about 3 years. I changed out the Eminence Speaker for a Peavey BW 1501-4. The BW has a warmer sound to my ears in the FSK. The FSK weighs 60 lbs. with the BW in it. The nice feature on the FSK is the Mid Frequency Control. Took me a little while to figure it out, but that control along with the Mid Level Control allows you to adjust the amount of Frequency between 200 - 1000 Hz. Then there is an overall EQ Control.
Once I learned how to dial those in, I really like the amp. Very versitile. The overall dimensions are 20Wx21Hx12D and at 60 lbs you have a 200W amp with a 15" Speaker in it with casters. If you need to run through the PA it has a XLR out w/ Gain Control. I like mine. I would recommend the BW 1501-4 speaker change.
Can't speak to the Nashville 112, never played one.
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Joe Smith
From:
Charlotte, NC, USA
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Posted 2 Aug 2009 5:49 pm
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I would take the Peavey 112 any day over the FSK. I have played through both and to my ear the Peavy is the best sounding amp.
That's just one old mans opinion. |
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Jon Jaffe
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 3 Aug 2009 4:56 pm Fsk/nv 112
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| I am not being flippant, but why do you just take one speaker, play in mono, bring your wife in the front seat and have her carry one item in to the gig. You may save money and have less to carry. |
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Mike Archer
From:
church hill tn
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Posted 3 Aug 2009 5:26 pm amps
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I use a nashville 112
its a heck of a amp only thing better would be 2
ill take a nash 112 anyday over a steel king
but if I got a steel king I would darn sure put
a 1501-4 speaker in it what comes in them sucks
the highs are brittle and I cant stand that
and you better have a good strong back too
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Alan Copenhaver
From:
Superior, WI, USA
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Posted 4 Aug 2009 1:57 pm Nashville 112
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I have used a Nashville 400 for many years, and on several different instruments. I just got my 112 today and I am thrilled, I think it will be a great amp too, and lighter. 
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Alan Copenhaver
From:
Superior, WI, USA
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Posted 4 Aug 2009 2:00 pm
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And, I must say the folks over at Steel Guitar Nashville are top shelf in my book. They introduced me to the new amp.
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 4 Aug 2009 4:41 pm
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The 112 is a nice little amp, but at only 80 watts, I don't think even two of them would satisfy me after I'd been pushing a couple hundred watts. (I like a ballsy sound.)
The SK might do okay for me, though. At 200 watts, it's almost up there with what I'm used to!  |
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Georg Sørtun
From:
Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 4 Aug 2009 5:17 pm
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I've ordered a NV 112, and will probably give it a back-plate for stronger lows. A back-plate doesn't add much to weight, and will probable double the audible volume in the low frequency range relevant for a steel.
FWIW: to get twice the audible volume from an amp, one needs an amp that can deliver four times the Wattage. Using a NV 112 as reference that means one needs at least 320 Watt to sound convincing - and only if the speaker can deliver. |
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Gary Chiappetta
From:
San Bruno, California, USA
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Posted 4 Aug 2009 7:53 pm
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Rich,
I just got a Nashville 112 this March and am very happy with it. This is a superb amp and I think the Peavey engineers "outdid" themselves on this one. I still own a Session 400 and Session 400 Wedge but never use them anymore. The NV 112 will carry every room I have played recently with ease, and I can rely on the direct-out to patch into the house sound system if I need more suds. |
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Rich Swiger
From:
Nashville TN, USA
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Posted 4 Aug 2009 8:55 pm
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I have tried taking just one speaker but it just doesn't sound the same. Everything sounds kinda flat.
There are good features about each amp. I think only trying them will tell the story for me.
Thanks
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Dennis Wallis
From:
Arkansas
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Posted 5 Aug 2009 1:33 pm
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I have both. They are both good amps. I do however prefer the FSK. I have it split in two cabinets therefore making it lighter and easier to transport.
A blue Tube preamp will help a lot with either amp for dialing in tone . That's my .02 worth . |
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Roger Kelly
From:
Bristol,Tennessee
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Posted 6 Aug 2009 5:27 pm
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Rich...Jon Jaffe has the right idea.  |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 6 Aug 2009 6:05 pm
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| Georg Sørtun wrote: |
| I've ordered a NV 112, and will probably give it a back-plate for stronger lows. A back-plate doesn't add much to weight, and will probable double the audible volume in the low frequency range relevant for a steel. |
That will help, but only at the expense of making the amp very directional, and it'll also remove some of the transient "airy" sound you get with an open back. Sure, you'll gain in efficiency and low end, but you'll lose dispersion and highs. It's a trade-off that works for some, but not for others.
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FWIW: to get twice the audible volume from an amp, one needs an amp that can deliver four times the Wattage. Using a NV 112 as reference that means one needs at least 320 Watt to sound convincing - and only if the speaker can deliver. |
Theoretically, yes. But in a practical sense, that takes into consideration only "volume". The real reason for increased power is for added bass response, for tonal reinforcement on the bottom end. I've found that doubling the power gives a substantial audible boost in this area that is easily noticeable, even though the "theoretical figures" say that doubling the power only gives you about a 10% increase in volume (which is barely audible). For example, a 135-watt Twin Reverb has about twice as much bass response, and noticeably more headroom, than does the 60-70 watt blackface Twin Reverb. |
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Georg Sørtun
From:
Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 7 Aug 2009 2:34 am
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Donny,
you're of course right about the back plate's effect on the sound-spread for mids, and to some degree the highs. Real lows are not directional, so there one only has to deal with the "short-circuiting" caused by having an open backside in a small cabinet - short travel-distance from front to back side of speaker.
Building a back plate that enhances the lows by making the travel-distance around the cabinet sides longer, without destroying the unit's inherent sound characteristics completely, is indeed somewhat challenging.
I can't check on travel-distance and subsequent "short-circuiting" effect for lows inherent to various cabinets, so I can't say what gives certain units more audible lows.
Various instrument-amps ability to sustain full gain for low frequencies also varies greatly. I don't have much data for various amps either, but instrument amps, or rather their power supplies, are generally poor to medium in this respect.
Most power is drained to output lows in any amp, and all power stages in instrument amps would gain from having a larger "charge" in the power supply to drain power from - higher cap-values in their power supplies, so they can sustain the almost sinusoidal lows from a steel at high output for longer. That will automatically make them sound louder, and also clearer, in the lows.
Maybe the Twin Reverb is better than average in this respect, which could/would explain the improved bass response. |
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Patrick Hattic
From:
Los Banos, California, USA
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Posted 7 Aug 2009 4:17 pm
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| Rich,hey man I have both amps and no wife,Give me a call (831) 229-1070, maybe we can meet up. |
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