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Topic: I Love Being Here With Diana Krall (don't you?) |
Jim Cohen
From: Philadelphia, PA
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Ken Lang
From: Simi Valley, Ca
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Posted 16 Jul 2009 6:52 pm
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You know, I like jazz some, but not too much. I guess I don't understand it. You start and play the head, so everybody can recognize the tune you are playing and then everybody riffs around the chord structure. What they play is anyones guess. Notes fly everywhere, with no particular reason in all kinds of different patterns, sometimes in different meter. No identifiable melody. Nothing to sink your teeth into to really remember. And the next time they play the song they play something entirely different. Finally at the tail they return to something recognizable and go out.
I do think it's good, I know jazz players are good, I know it's beyond me. It just doesn't make sense. _________________ heavily medicated for your safety |
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Jim Cohen
From: Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 16 Jul 2009 6:59 pm
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That's how I feel when I hear people talking Dutch. Sounds flying around with no particular reason in all kinds of different patterns... It just doesn't make sense.
(Of course, I'm riffin' on ya, Ken, but my point is that jazz is a language, or at least an idiom within the language of music. And, just like with Dutch, if one hasn't invested the time and effort to learn the language, well, of course you'll have no idea what anybody is saying!) _________________ www.JimCohen.com
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John Steele
From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 16 Jul 2009 10:00 pm
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Jim, if you like this, you'd love an album of Ernestine Anderson's, where she sings this tune backed up by the ultimate trio: Monty Alexander, Ray Brown and the same drummer, Jeff Hamilton.
There's also a live at the Concord Festival with Ernestine and the same band that's exceptional.
- John
p.s. Krall would readily cite Monty as one of her main pianistic influences. |
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Mark Edwards
From: Weatherford,Texas, USA
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Posted 17 Jul 2009 4:15 am
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Jazz Schmazz as long as Diana Krall is playing it's all good....she's hot... |
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Kevin Hatton
From: Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 17 Jul 2009 10:36 am
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She's amazing. If Streisand pals around with her thats good enoug for me. I have to pick up her new album. |
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Jeff Evans
From: Cowtown and The Bill Cox Outfit
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Posted 17 Jul 2009 11:17 am
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Jazz Schmazz as long as Diana Krall is playing it's all good....she's hot... |
Country Schmountry — as long as Pigg Robbins is playing, it's all good . . . he's hot. |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 18 Jul 2009 4:13 am
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ain't she good !
i've always dug Mose A, & she's right up that alley too |
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c c johnson
From: killeen,tx usa * R.I.P.
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Posted 18 Jul 2009 11:29 am
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now I know why the french have not won a war since Napolionic times; listening to crab like that can take the life out of a fellow. Of course gringos can listen to it and absorb it as long as a fine looking woman is around. love it cc |
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Jeff Evans
From: Cowtown and The Bill Cox Outfit
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Posted 18 Jul 2009 12:56 pm
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. . . listening to crab . . . |
How do crabs sound? Their screams must be out of my frequency perception range, (but the animals sure are delicious.)
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. . . Napolionic times . . . |
As in, back in Old Napoli?
That's Amore. |
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c c johnson
From: killeen,tx usa * R.I.P.
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Posted 18 Jul 2009 3:38 pm
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I would have said crap however I am too nice a fellow and not opinionated in any way. |
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Gary Cosden
From: Florida, USA
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Posted 18 Jul 2009 4:45 pm
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Hey Crowbear - she reminds me of Mose Allison too. She is beautiful (Elvis Costello is one lucky man) but I also find her to be a stunningly introspective vocalist. I have got to catch her live sometime. |
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Dave Mudgett
From: Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 18 Jul 2009 7:34 pm
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I like this a lot, but of course I'm a jazz guitar partisan. Anthony Wilson really sounds great on guitar here. He sorta' reminds me of a cross between Hank Garland and Barney Kessel - he even looks a bit like Barney. I catch a bit of the Mose vibe too, and the whole thing swings like crazy. Good stuff.
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Notes fly everywhere, with no particular reason in all kinds of different patterns, sometimes in different meter. No identifiable melody. Nothing to sink your teeth into to really remember. And the next time they play the song they play something entirely different. Finally at the tail they return to something recognizable and go out. |
I agree with Jim - it takes some extended listening to hear the patterns, melodies, and so on. To me, each soloist here is playing very melodically - lots and lots of distinct melodic statements, but I think it hangs together well. I suppose jazz tends to be a bit cerebral sometimes, but the way this one cooks, I think that if one just sits down and listens to a bunch of swingin' jazz like this for a while, it will all be much more clear and interesting. I can (and sometimes do) listen to this kind of jazz for days on end.
Diana's looks may help her commercial success, but are completely irrelevant to her music, which invites favorable comparisons to fine jazz pianists like Oscar Peterson, and then add her voice - this stands on its own regardless of any visual aspects. My opinion, of course. |
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Papa Joe Pollick
From: Swanton, Ohio
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Posted 18 Jul 2009 7:49 pm
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I'm in love again!!!!
That's good music for sure.. |
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Jim Cohen
From: Philadelphia, PA
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Edward Meisse
From: Santa Rosa, California, USA
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Posted 18 Jul 2009 10:11 pm
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Heiress. _________________ Amor vincit omnia |
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Jim Cohen
From: Philadelphia, PA
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Glenn Suchan
From: Austin, Texas
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Posted 19 Jul 2009 6:10 am
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Personally, I think of Diana as the heir to Nat King Cole's mantle. |
Jim, I think Diana is the heir apparent to Shirley Horn. As many Forumites probably know, Shirley, who passed away in 2005, had worked with Stuff Smith and Miles Davis in the late 50's and early 60's.
See if you don't hear a lot of what Diana K. is about in this YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0zLUaC263A
Keep on pickin'!
Glenn |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 19 Jul 2009 6:22 am
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Real good stuff. |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 19 Jul 2009 7:06 am
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You know, I like jazz some, but not too much. |
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Steve Hitsman
From: Waterloo, IL
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Posted 19 Jul 2009 8:51 am
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Personally, I think of Diana as the heir to Nat King Cole's mantle.
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...but, of course. |
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Ken Lang
From: Simi Valley, Ca
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Posted 19 Jul 2009 8:35 pm
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Jim Cohen wrote: |
That's how I feel when I hear people talking Dutch. Sounds flying around with no particular reason in all kinds of different patterns... It just doesn't make sense.
(Of course, I'm riffin' on ya, Ken, but my point is that jazz is a language, or at least an idiom within the language of music. And, just like with Dutch, if one hasn't invested the time and effort to learn the language, well, of course you'll have no idea what anybody is saying!) |
Jim. You know, that's a great explaination. You are exactly right as far as I can see. I will use that for anyone who has my same problem.
Thanks. _________________ heavily medicated for your safety |
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Chip Fossa
From: Monson, MA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 21 Jul 2009 11:56 am
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Like many here, I don't "get" jazz all that much; but I sure got her. Full blast, too. She's dynamic.
BTW, for me, that U-Tube video did not expand, or does not expand into full screen. What's with that?
They usually do, don't they?
Thanks for that link Jimbeaux. BTW, I'm gonna be takin' intermediary Dutch in the fall semester;
I figure I already know enough Dutch, what with windmills and that little feller with his finger in the dike (?). I can easily skip Dutch 101. _________________ Chip
Williams U-12 8X5; Keyless; Natural Blonde Laquer. |
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Ron Page
From: Penn Yan, NY USA
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Posted 24 Jul 2009 8:22 am
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So I guess Jazz is like Scotch--an acquired taste. I'll be by on Saturday at Scotty's for another shot or two. _________________ HagFan
Emmons Lashley LeGrande II |
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Buck Reid
From: Nashville,TN
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Posted 30 Jul 2009 6:49 am
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Thanks Jim for making my day! _________________ www.BuckReid.com |
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