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Topic: Joe Wright not coming to St. Louis |
Darrell Criswell
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Maryland, USA
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Posted 28 Jun 2009 4:51 pm |
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Anyone know why Joe Wright isn't coming to the ISGC this year?
Mark Hayes Posted 16 Jun 2009 3:33 pm Joe Wright is not comming to St. Louis I just got an email from Joe. His email said, "I will not be attending the convention this year. |
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Ernest Cawby
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Lake City, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 29 Jun 2009 1:58 pm hi
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It cost alot to make the trip and sales are way down is the news I hear. $600 for a table. It cost $800.00 to make the trip in 07,. some of you may have a better answer than this.
ernie |
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Ron Page
From:
Penn Yan, NY USA
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Posted 30 Jun 2009 8:14 am
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Disappointing, but understandable. I always appreciate and admire Joe, be it his on-stage performance or just gabbing at his booth.
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 30 Jun 2009 11:23 am
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I can appreciate sales being down but you've got to spend money to make money. The ISGC is like "Christmas Shopping" for most Steel Guitar and/or accessories vendors and pickers.
He must get some type of "compensation" when he plays on the convention, such as free room and maybe more so that cuts way down on expenses. |
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Ted Solesky
From:
Mineral Wells, Texas, USA
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Posted 2 Jul 2009 5:39 am Convention
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| I saw Joe at the Dallas shin-dig and I really enjoyed his pickin. Sorry to hear this news. Ted |
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John Fabian
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Mesquite, Texas USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 2 Jul 2009 6:32 am
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| Jack Stoner wrote: |
I can appreciate sales being down but you've got to spend money to make money. The ISGC is like "Christmas Shopping" for most Steel Guitar and/or accessories vendors and pickers.
He must get some type of "compensation" when he plays on the convention, such as free room and maybe more so that cuts way down on expenses. |
Sometimes the economics just don't work out. A vendor has to make the best judgement as to allocation of his time and resources to provide for LONG term viability.
We see a lot of people reducing their presence at trade shows to conserve resources. |
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Sonny Jenkins
From:
Texas Masonic Retirement Center,,,Arlington Tx
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Posted 3 Jul 2009 11:06 am
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| No disrespect intended,,,and JMO,,but Joe did not seem to have the enthusiasm in Dallas this year,,,everyone is entitled to a little "burn-out" from time to time,,,I'm sure it's tough to keep doing the same routine and stay excited about it. |
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Ray Montee
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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 3 Jul 2009 5:34 pm No St.Louis
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| bump-bumpity-bump. |
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Danny Hullihen
From:
Harrison, Michigan
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Posted 4 Jul 2009 2:46 am
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| John Fabian wrote: |
| Jack Stoner wrote: |
I can appreciate sales being down but you've got to spend money to make money. The ISGC is like "Christmas Shopping" for most Steel Guitar and/or accessories vendors and pickers.
He must get some type of "compensation" when he plays on the convention, such as free room and maybe more so that cuts way down on expenses. |
Sometimes the economics just don't work out. A vendor has to make the best judgement as to allocation of his time and resources to provide for LONG term viability.
We see a lot of people reducing their presence at trade shows to conserve resources. |
I think John Fabian summed it up best here. "allocation of his time and resources to provide for LONG term viability."
Although an artist may be compensated for his performances, many times that ends up being at best a wash for them after their expenses are subtracted. In the case of a non performing vendor, their expenses can be enormous with the large investment they have to make in order to gear up for these shows, and a huge amount of that inventory has to be sold just to have a chance of breaking even. Factor in the economy being the way it is, and with sales being at an all time low at these shows, an artist and/or vendor has to do some very serious thinking about whether or not it would be feesable to attend. |
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Jerome Hawkes
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Fayetteville, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 13 Jul 2009 8:17 am
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well i hate joe isnt going - me and a friend of mine were/are planning to go to our first steel convention and i always look forward to his shows - but i totally understand. i go to a lot of business related trade shows and even the big corporations are pulling out of even the major ones. if nobody is buying, they cant justify going.
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Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
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Posted 13 Jul 2009 10:42 am
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There could be many reasons why Joe isn't going. He obviously is not saying. Maybe he's sick and tired of it all. Maybe someone pissed him off. Maybe he thinks the buffet is lousy (which it isn't!). It probably has nothing to do with economics. Who knows?  Either way, I'm sure we could speculate forever on the reasons why. But I'm sure Joe would rather we didn't.
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Warren Cohran
From:
Georgia, USA
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Tom Pickett Jr
From:
blue grass ia
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Posted 13 Jul 2009 6:47 pm no other one like em
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joe will be missed!!!!  |
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Darrell Criswell
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 13 Jul 2009 8:03 pm Joe should come!
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I hope Joe changes his mind and comes, whatever problems have presented themselves can be resolved. He is a very great musician.
Last edited by Darrell Criswell on 14 Jul 2009 3:53 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Jim Sliff
From:
Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 13 Jul 2009 8:17 pm
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| It probably has nothing to do with economics. |
I'd bet dollars-to-donuts it does.
An artist is like any vendor with customers - whether they just perform for a fee, also have a booth, whatever. An artist is "business" and like any business has to calculate the expense-to-income ratio and do cost accounting.
When the economy sucks (as it does...) ALL conventions and trade shows of all types lose a significant number of otherwise regular "vendors". If the performance fee is only a break-even figure and sales are down, a performer/vendor is going to think participation through very carefully, and if it's not going to MAKE money it's simply bad business to work the convention.
I'm sure close to 75-80% of the lesson, accessory and instrument vendors are having a down year (this is the % trend in the part-professional, part disposable-income business...i.e. products or services that are both business related and hobby items). Those that choose to attend even though they predict it's going to cost them significant $$ in the long term (meaning attendance this year is not going to be made up in future years' sales) might be "god guys" for going - but might be out of business in a few years as well.
I've attended shows as a customer this year and most shows were 2/3 the size of previous years.
The steel convention is no different, and anyone with a booth (or performing for fee) is in the same situation. The ones that DON'T know what the convention will actually cost them in a down economy are the most likely to suffer - I've seen it happen in the music business for the 35+ years I've been involved in one way or another. It happens quite often to small companies run by non-business people, and all you have to do is look at 10-15 year old music magazines. Peruse the ads and count (especially in the back-pages small ad section) ho many advertisers are long-gone.
I wouldn't blame Joe or anyone who had to travel for not participating this year. As a businessperson I'd give people credit for NOT participating - figuring they plan on being around for a while.
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Joey Ace
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 14 Jul 2009 4:02 am "Absense Makes The Heart Grow Fonder"
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Joe has his reasons,and we need to respect that.
Any speculation isn't fair.
I'm usually reminding people to stay on-topic, but this time I'll make the unusual suggestion to drift a bit.
This is a worthwhile discussion, but I'd like to see it drift into a more generic discussion, as some have already done.
Peavey chose not to be at the Dallas Show this year.
I understand it was a business decision, and they'll be back.
I know pro players that have never attended the ISGC because Labor Day weekend is a very busy time for their artist gig. |
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Doug Earnest
From:
Branson, MO USA
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Posted 14 Jul 2009 7:24 am
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I think it would be nice to spend a Labor Day weekend with my family, but will be attending the convention again this year. There are good reasons for having this event on Labor Day weekend but we can't expect people to make it every year.
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