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Ned Hudson

 

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Post  Posted 31 May 2009 1:16 pm    
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Would anyone be kind enough to look at this You Tube and answer my question: what makes this fellow's guitar suddenly sound more brilliant? On this You Tube two guys are seen playing "Sleepwalk". The second player, after a six or eight bars, turns and seems to switch something on and suddenly the sound is different, I'd call it more brilliant. How does he achieve that I would like to know. From this you must sense I am pretty much a beginner. Thanks for reading. Here's the site: Smile http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PbIcMtOTeI&NR=1
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Bryan Daste


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Portland, Oregon, USA
Post  Posted 31 May 2009 1:25 pm    
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I think he's actually turning something off...to me it sounds like there's an overdrive/fuzz on the first passage, then he switches it off for a cleaner, more classic pedal steel sound.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 31 May 2009 3:02 pm    
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I don't detect any tone change, but something more like he turned the pre-gain down a little. There seems to be less distortion. Most of the added "brilliance" comes in when he starts playing on higher strings, and that's quite natural.
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Roger Francis

 

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kokomo,Indiana, USA
Post  Posted 31 May 2009 4:57 pm    
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And sounds like they are both using a compressor.
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Mike Perlowin


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Los Angeles CA
Post  Posted 31 May 2009 7:27 pm    
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Bryan Daste wrote:
I think he's actually turning something off...to me it sounds like there's an overdrive/fuzz on the first passage, then he switches it off for a cleaner, more classic pedal steel sound.


I think so too.
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Ned Hudson

 

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Post  Posted 1 Jun 2009 8:29 am    
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Thank you people. This is all food for thought for me. I just think my guitar doesn't ever sound like that and wonder why.
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Brett Day


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Post  Posted 1 Jun 2009 9:47 am    
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Another difference is, one guy is playin'a lapsteel that's on top of the pedal steel and the other guy is playin' pedal steel.

Brett
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Brian Kurlychek


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Maine, USA
Post  Posted 1 Jun 2009 9:57 am    
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Welcome to the tone chase Ned. Thankfully I'm satisfied with my tone for the most part because I told myself I'm just gonna sound like me and not worry about trying to sound like someone else.
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Ned Hudson

 

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Post  Posted 1 Jun 2009 12:13 pm    
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Well I have to say Brian that's a philosophical approach and I was thinking more electronics and hardware or technique. Nevertheless I am drawn to it. It reminds me of a saying I found in a fortune cookie not long ago recommending we be a first rate version of ourselves instead of a second rate version of somebody else. So thanks for that and thanks to the rest of you for all those informative ideas.
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Ned Hudson

 

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Post  Posted 1 Jun 2009 12:28 pm    
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Not to prolong this thread but I just did not notice that the first guy was playing a lapsteel. That's interesting. Second I wonder what means the words "compressor", "pre-gain" and "overdrive/fuzz"?
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Mike Perlowin


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Los Angeles CA
Post  Posted 1 Jun 2009 12:34 pm    
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We all hear something in our heads that few, if any of us ever attain. But sometimes we can get pretty close.

If I may make a suggestion, the newer PODs (the XT and later) can produce a gazillion different tones. Many of these are rock guitar sounds that are not appropriate for steel, but the units contain some sounds that are perfect for our needs, (I use the Fender Bassman head and 4 ten inch speaker cabinet simulation settings.)

Many of our finest players, like Ron Elliot and Tommy Dodd are now using PODs to enhance their tone.

You ought to try one put and see whteher or not you like it.
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Ned Hudson

 

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Massachusetts, USA
Post  Posted 1 Jun 2009 7:14 pm    
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Excuse me Mike but I don't know what a POD is.
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Mike Perlowin


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Post  Posted 1 Jun 2009 8:09 pm    
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Ned. a POD is a multi-effects and amp/speaker modeling unit made by a company called Line 6, that contains a whole universe of different tones. Here is a link.

http://line6.com/products/pod/
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Ned Hudson

 

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Post  Posted 2 Jun 2009 1:10 pm    
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Well obviously there IS an electronic gadget out there and it might be for me some day but right now it's too expensive. Thanks for making me aware of it however. Incidentally Mike I've long owned your very intersting book on music theory and still use it to further my limited knowledge of the subject. Cheers.
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