| Author |
Topic: Phil Spector gets 19 years to Life |
Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
|
|
|
 |
Ron Whitfield
From:
Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
|
Posted 29 May 2009 12:55 pm |
|
| I'd like to have a recording of his time in prison... |
|
|
|
Pete Finney
From:
Nashville Tn.
|
Posted 29 May 2009 1:28 pm
|
|
deleted
Last edited by Pete Finney on 29 May 2009 10:04 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
|
|
Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
|
Posted 29 May 2009 1:35 pm
|
|
| Ron Whitfield wrote: |
| I'd like to have a recording of his time in prison... |
It would take you 19 years to listen to it ! Are you sure you want to do this ?
By the time you get to the end of the recording , the media format and all of the audio gear you would use for playback would be obsolete!
t |
|
|
|
LJ Eiffert
From:
California, USA
|
Posted 29 May 2009 1:43 pm
|
|
| Well now Phil has a new career for 19 years.But,he still has one more chance to beat it. Leo J.Eiffert,Jr. |
|
|
|
Barry Blackwood
|
Posted 29 May 2009 2:50 pm
|
|
| Quote: |
| A sad end to a long and winding road. |
Not as sad as Lana Clarkson's. |
|
|
|
Ron Whitfield
From:
Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
|
Posted 29 May 2009 3:35 pm
|
|
| Tony Prior wrote: |
| Ron Whitfield wrote: |
| I'd like to have a recording of his time in prison... |
It would take you 19 years to listen to it! Are you sure you want to do this? |
I'm guessing it would take 'significantly' less... |
|
|
|
Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
|
|
|
|
Andy Sandoval
From:
Bakersfield, California, USA
|
Posted 29 May 2009 4:09 pm
|
|
"(Well don't you know)
That's the sound of the men,
Working on the chain, ga-ang
That's the sound of the men,
Working on the chain, gang" |
|
|
|
Archie Nicol R.I.P.
From:
Ayrshire, Scotland
|
Posted 29 May 2009 4:22 pm
|
|
Bit of a chain reaction, Andy. 19 years with the sound of walls? How frightfully ironic.
Arch.
p.s. I should have thought of a Mo'townuous link to stay on topic.. 
_________________
I'm well behaved, so there! |
|
|
|
LJ Eiffert
From:
California, USA
|
Posted 29 May 2009 8:51 pm
|
|
So beside Phil Spector! How many of you were apart of that Gold Star Recording Stidios " Wrecking Crew " in Hollywood,California?  And also Pete Finney, Who is that Musician friend of your name that said he was apart of that team? Sincerely in Music,Leo J.Eiffert,Jr. with that Gold Star History of being apart of it with Jay Dee Maness & Al Bruno & Carl West & Jerry Cole as well as many more.  |
|
|
|
Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
|
Posted 29 May 2009 11:04 pm
|
|
The Wall of.......barbed wire.
"Yes, turn it all up!" What a genuis.
It's about time they locked up that lunatic. |
|
|
|
Nathan Sarver
From:
Washington State, USA
|
Posted 30 May 2009 1:35 am
|
|
| It's a sad situation any way you slice it. I see no reason for smugness or cruel quips. A poor woman lost her life, and her family will grieve the rest of their lives. A pathetic sociopath with an extraordinary musical gift will likely die in a cage. I don't understand what satisfaction anybody gets out of being cute about any of it. |
|
|
|
LJ Eiffert
From:
California, USA
|
Posted 30 May 2009 8:35 am
|
|
Hello Nathan Sarver. Take a better look at the picture of this out come of Phil and than do the same for the poor woman. Who put who in this scene. It takes two, or was it three? Point being it is sad that so many great Talent do this kind of thing to themself. If talking about it make's you mad,something wrong in side ones own self. Just like we only have two sides of this world Good and Bad. Davil Vs. God. No fight here,just and opinion what make's the world spin.  Leo J Eiffert,Jr. & PIGEONS Band |
|
|
|
David Mason
From:
Cambridge, MD, USA
|
Posted 30 May 2009 9:54 am
|
|
| I have a belief, grounded in some evidence, that there are a whole lot of latently-crazy people running around who will live out quiet and uneventful lives - as long as they don't feed their monsters with drugs and alcohol. That story of Spector and John Lennon, both hammered out of their gourds and waving around guns at a "recording" session, while 30 studio musicians (on the clock) waited to work - well, you wouldn't even expect a happy ending. The withdrawal method of birth control can keep the monsters at bay, but I guess 'excitement' is addictive too? Drunks & guns - sigh. |
|
|
|
Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
|
Posted 30 May 2009 10:07 am
|
|
He got a better deal than his victim.  |
|
|
|
Guy Cundell
From:
More idle ramblings from South Australia
|
Posted 30 May 2009 5:12 pm
|
|
| He should have got 5 to 10 for the mix of River Deep. |
|
|
|
Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
|
Posted 30 May 2009 9:02 pm
|
|
| ...and for adding delay to the snare on "Instant Karma". |
|
|
|
David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
|
Posted 30 May 2009 9:47 pm
|
|
| They're filing an appeal. But he has to wait it out behind bars. To be continued... |
|
|
|
Nathan Sarver
From:
Washington State, USA
|
Posted 30 May 2009 11:34 pm
|
|
| LJ, I'm honestly not sure at all what you're trying to communicate to me. I hope I didn't seem to be defending Mr. Spector, since I absolutely wish for the book to be thrown at him. At this point he's a murderer first and an artist second. I was just asking for the situation itself to be treated with a proper degree of gravity. I realize that puts me dangerously in tight-a$$ territory, and, lord knows, if none of this had happened, I'd be happy to engage in mocking Phil Spector and his bizarre hair decisions and his astounding over-production with John Lennon and George Harrison. Did you infer something else from my post, LJ? |
|
|
|
Barry Blackwood
|
Posted 31 May 2009 8:15 am
|
|
| In my estimation Nathan, your first post was spot-on. |
|
|
|
Guy Cundell
From:
More idle ramblings from South Australia
|
Posted 31 May 2009 8:22 am
|
|
| I seriously question "the extraordinary musical gift" but history will be the final arbiter on that issue. |
|
|
|
Mark Eaton
From:
Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
|
Posted 31 May 2009 8:53 am
|
|
I guess it comes down to the definition of "extraordinary musical gift."
Is the term reserved only for the musicians and composers? Beethoven and Mozart were pretty extraordinary. As is Tommy Emmanuel, or Jerry Douglas, or Buddy Emmons, or Lloyd Green.
Phil Spector's production (and he was a co-writer) of "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling" was by most definitions, pretty extraordinary. It's been over 40 years since that song was released by The Righteous Brothers, so I'd say there's some history there. Brian Wilson was inspired to write something else extraordinary, "Don't Worry Baby," after hearing "Be My Baby."
So Gary, if you question the extraordinary musical gift of this bizarre and strange man, how about being specific and and telling us what it is you question?
Steel Guitar Forum trivia: Lana Clarkson lived for a number of years went to high school in the same town a little north of me where b0b keeps this whole thing going: Cloverdale, California
_________________
Mark |
|
|
|
Guy Cundell
From:
More idle ramblings from South Australia
|
Posted 31 May 2009 10:41 am
|
|
Spector was definitely talented with great ears and a knack for arranging. I see that he is credited as cowriter for "Loving Feeling" which may or may not be correct. I have seen Mann and Weil interviewed extensively on that song without mentioning his contribution.
It is interesting to note that Alan Freed is credited with cowriting 19 songs including Chuck Bery's Maybelene and that is beyond belief. Producers have a lot of power.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8O8kzdpsLY
Anyway my point is that Specter's reputation as a producer is built on a production technique based on mic spill and drenched with heavy plate reverb resulting confused gluggy mixes. It works with some tunes but not others (IMO) depending on the instrumentation and texture. Loving Feeling OK, River Deep, shocker.
It is hard for the generation who first heard these songs to separate their feelings for attractive melodies and hooks from the realities of the mix. When considering Soul music 1960-67 I play students examples of Stax, Atlantic including Mussle Shoals and Motown and compare them with Wall of Sound. The reaction I observe from these young fresh ears supports my opinion. |
|
|
|
chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
|
Posted 31 May 2009 10:59 am
|
|
| with all of his wigs, his cell mate can have a different lover every night! |
|
|
|
