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b0b
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Posted 24 May 2009 10:31 pm |
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I recorded this demo of my Fender 1000. The song is called "Country Fryd", and it's based on Jim Baron's "Ray Price Shuffles" BIAB styles.
This was recorded without an amp, direct into GarageBand on a Mac. I wanted to capture the tone of the guitar itself. I did add some reverb because it just sounded to stark without it.
Country Fryd in A (mp3)
I used both necks, all of the strings and all of the pedals:
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Scott Shipley
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The Ozark Mountains
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Posted 24 May 2009 10:50 pm
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Very nice. Now you're makin me miss my 400!
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Jeremy Threlfall
From:
now in Western Australia
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Posted 25 May 2009 5:37 am
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| Bravo! |
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Len Amaral
From:
Rehoboth,MA 02769
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Posted 25 May 2009 6:23 am
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bOb, very nice.  |
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Leon Campbell
From:
Texas, USA
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Posted 25 May 2009 6:25 am Pretty
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| Hey B0b, I like those old Fenders, good tone and beautiful playing. Thanks, Leon |
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Jay Yuskaitis
From:
Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 25 May 2009 6:51 am 1000
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Hi Bob,
Very nice!
Jay Y. |
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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Ken Byng
From:
Southampton, England
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Posted 25 May 2009 9:58 am
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b0b
Did you use a volume pedal? From your tunings I guess you would have been using both feet on the pedals at least some of the time. Great vintage tone.
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 25 May 2009 10:09 am
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| No volume pedal. I use both feet on the E neck. |
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Ron Randall
From:
Dallas, Texas, USA
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Posted 25 May 2009 1:10 pm
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Nice
Vintage tone and style
R2 |
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Bo Borland
From:
South Jersey -
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Posted 25 May 2009 1:15 pm
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| Great tone from that old Fender, nice picking too! |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 25 May 2009 5:05 pm
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| Bobby, have the pickups been changed? The reason I ask is that there seems to be a real lack of treble (highs) on that recording. Perhaps your direct-to-computer setup was loading the pickup down? |
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Johnny Baldwin
From:
Long Beach, California, USA
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Posted 25 May 2009 5:16 pm
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| Excellent! |
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 25 May 2009 6:12 pm
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| Donny, that is an excellent observation. Bob, are those the original pickups? |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 25 May 2009 8:50 pm
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The rear pickup had to be rewound. Jason Lollar did it to original specs.
The guitar does sound quite a bit brighter through an amp. I think every guitar sounds dull when you run it direct. I used a Tascam US-144 interface, which has a dedicated guitar input.
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Andy Sandoval
From:
Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 26 May 2009 10:52 am
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I like it, I like it!  Great tone Bob. |
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 26 May 2009 11:29 am
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| Donny nailed it. That is not atypical Fender tone. I much prefer the brighter tone. |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 26 May 2009 1:15 pm
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Is it possible to get that "brighter tone" by running a Fender 1000 direct into a recorder, without an amp? We talk so much about the tone of out instruments, but in my experience most steel guitars sound very different without an amplifier and speaker coloring the tone.
Here's an earlier recording of the same guitar through a Fender Princeton, with Holy Grail reverb and an SM-57 mike:
http://soundhost.net/b0b/CountryFryd.mp3
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Scott Shipley
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Posted 26 May 2009 1:24 pm
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If you HAVE to record direct, a good tube pre-amp helps. The ART MP tube pre-amp is inexpensive and sounds great. Kinda makes a direct box obsolete.
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 26 May 2009 1:31 pm
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What, then, is the tone of the guitar itself? The sound it makes from an amplifier, the sound it makes with a tube preamp, or the sound of wire going direct to the input of the recorder?
The purpose of this demo was to objectively showcase the tone of the guitar. Is the "line in" approach wrong for this goal?
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Scott Shipley
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Posted 26 May 2009 1:42 pm
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IMHO, a decent quality tube pre-amp won't actually change the tone, but it will enhance it though. Just kinda fattens up what's there already. Personally, I would never record ANY instrument direct, without at least some sort of pre-amp.
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| The purpose of this demo was to objectively showcase the tone of the guitar. Is the "line in" approach wrong for this goal? |
That being the goal, I thought you nailed it. Very clear and natural.
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Dustin Rigsby
From:
Parts Unknown, Ohio
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Posted 27 May 2009 4:31 am
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b0b,
I liked the tone both ways. FWIW, I recorded the Averys demo with two lines,one out of my volume pedal into a DI and then into the board. The second was my amp mic'ed up. The two tracks were mixed together. It sounded sweet that way. Sorry if I hijacked the thread. |
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 27 May 2009 8:14 am
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What, no D string on E9?! b0b, how can you play that thing? 
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What, then, is the tone of the guitar itself? The sound it makes from an amplifier, the sound it makes with a tube preamp, or the sound of wire going direct to the input of the recorder?
The purpose of this demo was to objectively showcase the tone of the guitar. Is the "line in" approach wrong for this goal? |
Depends on how you intend to use the instrument. Although the truest sound of the instrument will be a direct line-in, that won't be relevant unless you intend to use it that way. If you intend to use a guitar direct box (which simulates a guitar amp and speaker), or an amp/speaker model, or a real amp and speaker miked, then that is the only useful way to assess the tone of the instrument. In that regard, do you know whether the guitar input of the Tascam colors the sound with guitar amp/speaker simulation? |
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Ben Jones
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Seattle, Washington, USA
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Posted 27 May 2009 8:21 am
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| b0b wrote: |
What, then, is the tone of the guitar itself? The sound it makes from an amplifier, the sound it makes with a tube preamp, or the sound of wire going direct to the input of the recorder?
The purpose of this demo was to objectively showcase the tone of the guitar. Is the "line in" approach wrong for this goal? |
Leo Fender reportedly thought of the amp, the guitar and the cable as the instrument and inseperable. I believe the intended tone of this instrument is the guitar played thru a fender amplifier. |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 27 May 2009 9:12 am
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| Leo was correct of course, Ben. But actually, I sort of like the direct tone of this guitar. It brings out the low strings nicely. |
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