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Topic: "Together Again" what key |
Calvin Walley
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colorado city colorado, USA
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Posted 24 May 2009 2:13 pm |
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what key was the original "together again" in ?
i only have a backing track from Jeff Newman in A
but wasn't the original in F#
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Nathan Sarver
From:
Washington State, USA
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Posted 24 May 2009 2:16 pm
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| The original Buck Owens' cut was C# |
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Calvin Walley
From:
colorado city colorado, USA
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Posted 24 May 2009 2:17 pm
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thanks Nathan
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proud parent of a sailor
Mullen SD-10 /nashville 400
gotta love a Mullen!!!
Guitars that i have owned in order are :
Mullen SD-10,Simmons SD-10,Mullen SD-10,Zum stage one,Carter starter,
Sho-Bud Mavrick |
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John Steele (deceased)
From:
Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 24 May 2009 5:36 pm
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I find on the bandstand it's most often called in A.
Sometimes G.
- John |
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Charles Davidson
From:
Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 24 May 2009 8:00 pm
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Calvin,on the bandstand you won't ALLWAYS find some one singing a song in the ORIGINAL key,it's according to the range of the vocalist.Just be prepared to play ANY song in ANY key.That's easy to do on steel,as long as no open strings are involved,for instance if you are used to playing a song in A,if someone wants to do it in B flat,just slide up one fret and play it like you allways do,real simple, DYKBC.
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James Collett
From:
San Dimas, CA
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Posted 24 May 2009 8:43 pm
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I seem to hear it a lot in G, even though the song was recorded in C#... so yeah, I had nothing valuable to contribute 
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Chris LeDrew
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Canada
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Posted 24 May 2009 8:56 pm
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In C# you can do the second piece of the solo down on the 2nd fret without falling off the neck. We do it in C, and I do that second part on the 13-12 frets because I hate slding off the neck and doing that last part on the open strings.
...I hope somebody might understand what I meant by that.  |
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Nathan Sarver
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Washington State, USA
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Posted 24 May 2009 9:12 pm
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| I know what you mean. Do you think it's possible they moved the key up a half step for the benefit of the steel break? |
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Chris LeDrew
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Canada
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Posted 24 May 2009 9:19 pm
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You know I always thought that, Nathan. I would have been nice to ask Tom.
I heard a rumor that his steel was giving him mechanical trouble the day they recorded "Together Again", and he had use of the AB pedals only. And within these parameters, he came up with the solo. I don't know if anyone can support that rumor. |
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Nathan Sarver
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Washington State, USA
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Posted 24 May 2009 9:47 pm
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If it is true, that's one heck of a story. It's maybe THE pedal steel solo. I'd be interested also if anyone can substantiate that.
It certainly is a shame Mr. Brumley is no longer with us. |
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Steve Alcott
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New York, New York, USA
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Posted 24 May 2009 10:05 pm
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| I may be wrong, but I believe Buck and Co. tuned down a half step, so it would have been played in D. Also, and the Fender guys are welcome to straighten me out here, I understand a lot of Fenders were tuned to D9 to minimize string breakage. |
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Nathan Sarver
From:
Washington State, USA
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Tracy Sheehan
From:
Fort Worth, Texas, USA
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Posted 24 May 2009 10:36 pm
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| Steve Alcott wrote: |
| I may be wrong, but I believe Buck and Co. tuned down a half step, so it would have been played in D. Also, and the Fender guys are welcome to straighten me out here, I understand a lot of Fenders were tuned to D9 to minimize string breakage. |
I knew a few steel players that tuned down to D.A short time after i had a fender 1000 i first tuned down to E flat trying to get away from the string breakage.Finally tuned to D and never looked back.
i could use a more heavy gauge string.No other steel player could tell i was not tuned to E until they set in on my steel.Tracy |
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 24 May 2009 10:41 pm
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To get it to sound closer to the original, I played it in C# in THIS video.
Then I went and spoiled it by moving up to Eb  |
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Dave Harmonson
From:
Seattle, Wa
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Posted 24 May 2009 11:56 pm
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| On most of Buck Owens recordings the band was tuned down 1/2 step. I don't know for sure why they did it. One of my theories is that it made it a little easier to hit those high harmonies on some of the songs in A like I Don't Care, and Love's Gonna Live Here. Even Buckaroo is in C# and you know they were playing in D on their guitars. For their live shows I believe they were tuned up to standard pitch, but sometimes songs they played A position in the studio they played in G live. |
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John Roche
From:
England
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Posted 25 May 2009 12:29 am
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| The reason they tuned down half a step was to aviod string breakage on the steel.. |
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Colin Goss
From:
St.Brelade, Island of Jersey, Channel Islands, UK
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Posted 25 May 2009 2:24 am Tom Brumley - Together again
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On a video (no longer on the net) Tom is talking with Buck Trent, Stan Hitchcock, Ronnie Reno and Cal Smith, he says it was recorded on a Fender 1000 which Jay McDonald had trashed. Don Rich and Tom had to restring it and managed to get two pedals working. Two days later he was in the studio with that guitar and recorded Together again.
On the video he plays (a 11 string Anapeg) in C and modulates to D |
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Lonnie Zsigray
From:
Saint Louis,Mich., USA
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Posted 25 May 2009 2:24 am Together again
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I had spoken with Tom a few years ago and had asked him that very question concerning the tuning.He indicated that Buck felt more comfortable singing with the "tuned down" cords and no capo's were necessary.Tom said that was the only time he could recall having used the Fender to record with on Together Again and the song was done with AB pedals using Emmons setup.I think somewhere I still have the tuning he used on his ZB which he emailed to me.
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