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Topic: Emmons LLIII counterforce adjustment from Day to Emmons? |
Jerome Hawkes
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Fayetteville, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 13 May 2009 4:16 am |
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i have no experience with the LLIII counterforce, but i am considering buying a nice used LLIII - it is currently a Day set up and i would have to change it over to Emmons - which means just about the entire E9 pedal/knee rodding except the C pedal. so, would this mean that the counterforce would have to be re-adjusted or will it make no difference? i'm just trying to get all my facts before i open a can of worms with the switch. i've read here where one doesnt need to be messing with the counterforce if they dont know what they are doing (which i wont).
if its just the rodding, that i can handle. |
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Brian Kurlychek
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Maine, USA
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Posted 13 May 2009 4:48 am
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Why not request the pedals be changed prior to buying it? If that's at all possible. If not, find out how much it is to have that done and work that into the deal. There are plenty of Emmons set up LGIIIs out there.
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Charles Curtis
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Posted 13 May 2009 5:11 am
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| Why not call Ron at the Emmons PSG Co. in Burlington, NC and talk to him? |
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Jerome Hawkes
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Fayetteville, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 13 May 2009 5:13 am
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thats true - 'cept this steel is local, in town and a GOOD price $500 less than what they are selling for in the classifieds (plus i'd have to pay shipping on top of that - another $60+) not to mention i can check this one out personally and play it.
charles - depending on the replies i get, either yes, or no - i'd go that route. not to open any old wounds, but the last time i went to the factory, nobody was there - this was in the middle of a work day and i drove over from Duke Hospital while my dad was up there - so i dont know whats up over there. of course this was a while ago. |
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Jim Palenscar
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Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 13 May 2009 6:59 am
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It's really a breeze to do. Just note a couple of things before making the change:
1-Where the pull rods are located both in the changer and bellcranks so that you can achieve the same action and timing of the pulls that it currently has (if you like it the way it is) and
2-Pay attention to just how the counterforce mechanism works. It is adjusted so that you don't notice any change in pitch of a string (ie. the 4th string) when the pedals are depressed. If adjusted too tightly the tuner will show a string that is not activated by a pedal (again- consider the 4th or 6th string for the A pedal) going sharp as the counterforce mechanism pushes against the changer axle, if not adjusted (by a small collar by the bellcrank) tightly enough the string will go flat so just adjust it so that neither situation develops- really a breeze. |
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Charles Curtis
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Posted 13 May 2009 8:51 am
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| Jerome, whenever I go down to Emmons, I call and make an appointment to see Ron. Jim has laid it out for you, but if you're not sure........I've watched Ron Jr work on my Emmons All/Pull and he is fast and IMO dang good. |
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Doug Palmer
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Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 15 May 2009 8:13 am changeover
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Jim is right on the money. Very easy to change over. Just write down the bellcrank hole numbers and the changer hole numbers. Counter force is a little overrated IMO. If it is a well built body you shouldn't have much cabinet drop. It just keeps everything neutral. I'm in Greensboro, not too far away...give me a call at home if you get in funk and I can talk you through it. 336-674-8200
Doug Palmer
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 15 May 2009 9:56 am
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I've had VERY good luck getting ahold of the good folks at Emmons by going through the Forum here. Rebecca has never failed to answer my e-mails.  |
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