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Topic: 1958 Gibson Sunburst Les Paul Jr must sell |
Shane Collins
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Posted 21 Apr 2009 4:30 pm |
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What a rocker! This guitar hasn't been played in twenty years and it has a tone that will knock you right out of your seat! I've owned it for 21 years myself. its one of those guitars that you say you will never sell but here goes..Its in awesome shape and is ready to play! Classic Gibson sunburst in color. I will also consider trading for a nice steel and amp.
Gruhn Guitars dated the guitar by tracking the serial number. I have a written and signed appraised value of $8000 to $11000.
I will send photos on request. The only thing that is not orginal are tuning keys. Years ago the owner took the Gibson keys off( because we all know that wont stay in tune) and installed Grover Keys. She sounds great! Everything else is all original. She comes with a hard shell case and is ready to go. ..
Trade or sell outright. Open to all offers. I've got the Steel bug again! $4500 cash
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Shane Collins
WPAP Radio
Clear Channel
Panama City, Fl
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Randy Gilliam
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San Antonio, Texas, USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2009 8:43 pm bump
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,Good Luck with your sale, Randy. 
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Shane Collins
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Posted 22 Apr 2009 1:52 am 1958 Gibson Les Paul Jr For Sale
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He said to bring it in but I live in Panama City. I've never really known how much it was worth so I'm still glad I made the call. It's not about how much I can get for it, I just want a nice steel. I'm willing to wheel and deal for a steel! If someone was serious, I could do a steel trade with alittle cash or just cash outright. I'm thinking a GOOD steel is worth at least $2500 right? That and $3000
cash would close the deal. I'm open to about anything. I'm just ready to play.
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Shane Collins
WPAP Radio
Clear Channel
Panama City, Fl |
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Marc Stone
From:
Louisiana, USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2009 5:15 am
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| uh, Randy, do you know what a sunburst 1958 Les Paul standard goes for these days? |
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John Purcell
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2009 5:21 am
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| Marc Stone wrote: |
| uh, Randy, do you know what a sunburst 1958 Les Paul standard goes for these days? |
There's a huge price difference between a '58 LP Standard and a '58 LP Jr.
A Standard costs more than my house. |
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Mark Eaton
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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 22 Apr 2009 7:02 am Re: Gruen
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| Randy Gilliam wrote: |
| Shane If Mr Gruen says Its Worth $8000.00 Why Not Let Him Have It? Its So Rare It May Be Worth Even More ,Good Luck with your sale, Randy. |
Mr. Gruhn wouldn't pay $8K for it if that is what it is worth. Being a retailer they would offer considerably less since they have to turn around and resell it.
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Shane Collins
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Florida, USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2009 7:12 am Gibson
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After doing some homework, there's a '55 on Ebay in rough shape. It's been worked on a lot and a there's a bunch of unoriginal parts on it going for $3300.
I also found a '56 going for $6000 and another '56 going for $8000.
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Shane Collins
WPAP Radio
Clear Channel
Panama City, Fl |
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Bill Hatcher
From:
Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2009 8:45 am
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| This is not a good time to be selling vintage guitars. The economy is such that there is not a lot of play money to be found. If you can hold on to the guitar until things are better, you might get a better price. |
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Shane Collins
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Florida, USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2009 8:57 am 1958 Gibson Les Paul Jr For Sale
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I'll let it go for $5000. I figure I could buy a nice steel and amp for that much.
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Shane Collins
WPAP Radio
Clear Channel
Panama City, Fl |
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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Jimmie Martin
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2009 9:27 am gibson
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Amen brother.  |
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Alan Kirk
From:
Scotia, CA, USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2009 11:03 am
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Reality Check. Gruhn's Fairy Tales may have been a good ballpark reference source 20 years ago, but in this day and age it is nothing but wishful thinking by a guitar broker. Am I the only one who sees the inherent conflict of interest in this SELLER'S inflated price list?
Market forces--eBay and other places where used instruments are bought and sold--have relegated Gruhn's Fairy Tales to the category of an acknowledged myth system, like worshiping Zeus. No rational person believes in it any more.
The market is what it is. Gruhn's does not reflect the current market--it can't, having been published sometime in the past. Gruhn's is total B.S., a waste of paper.
Use this search string on Google to see what your guitar might be worth TODAY (without the quotes): "+[guitar brand, model, etc.] +$ +sold". (The plus signs indicate that the subsequent word MUST be in the search results.)
Use your Gruhn's for kindling.
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Mark Eaton
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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 22 Apr 2009 12:43 pm
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Alan, I see your point on one hand, on the other hand, why would they tell a seller that an instrument is worth 8K-11K if it is worth considerably less?
I have no idea what their markup is on used instruments. But I'm sure a fair number of people that go for the Gruhn appraisal then want to sell it to them so that they can get their check, wash their hands of the thing, and not deal with ebay, Craigslist, or whatever.
It seems to be that it would behoove Gruhn to come in lower on the appraisal so that they would pay les for the guitar at wholesale.
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Randy Gilliam
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San Antonio, Texas, USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2009 1:49 pm Les Paul standard
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Marc Stone , 58 Les Paul Standard 200,000 I Know Where One Is If you want To Buy It, Thanks Randy.  |
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Bill Quinn
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Posted 22 Apr 2009 2:32 pm
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| I would hang onto your LP Jr too, last year they were worth quite a bit more, like just about everything else. I've had mine since in college 37 years ago. It was cheap, real cheap. I can also take credit for just about every ding on it. |
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Bryan Bradfield
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Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada.
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Posted 22 Apr 2009 3:48 pm
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| I like dealing with vintage dealers. Actually, I have a favorite dealer here in Canada. These dealers advertise in the appropriate market, or perhaps it is that vintage collectors know where to look. I believe that vintage collectors are often looking for something specific, and that they know what sort of retail range they need to prepare to pay. Of course, if the dealer buys from the seller, the dealer pays a wholesale price, rather than the retail price which is what the appraisal is. Another option for a seller is to have the dealer sell on consignment, which is my preference. The seller will pay a previously agreed upon percentage of the selling price to the dealer, to be deducted from the money received, after the sale. |
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Marc Stone
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Louisiana, USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2009 5:12 pm
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Hey Randy, wish i could!!
Yes, I'[m very well aware of the difference in value between a sunburst 58-60 standard and a Jr. But anything Gibson from the 50s in good shape is worth good $, and I don't think the seller is asking for an inflated price, he's just referencing an appraisal from one of the best known vintage dealers out there. Whether or not you agree with Gruhn's numbers, the seller isn't asking for that much, he's just quoting a respected source as a reference point. |
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Shane Collins
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Florida, USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2009 6:35 pm 1958 Gibson Les Paul Jr
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Gentlemen, I'm just now catching up on all the discusion about my guitar. I thank you all for your input. Let me make something clear...Gruhn tracked the serial number and dated my guitar over the phone, when I ask what THEY would offer me they told me to bring it. Being in the radio business, I get to Nashville several times per year but I have nothing planned right away. Thats when I decided to take my guitar to LEITZ MUSIC in Panama City. The owner looked through numerous books and checked online before he appraised my guitar. He was very impressed by the way it had been taken care and was blown away from the deep rich tone. He noted that the knobs, pick-up and color were all orginal. The only thing that is not is the tuning keys that I mentioned in the first ad. I am very honest when it comes to people and music. I just wanted to clear the confusion as to who appraised my guitar.
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WPAP Radio
Clear Channel
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Kevin Robbins
From:
North Carolina, USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2009 4:35 am Les Paul
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Sent pm 04-23-09
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Eric Philippsen
From:
Central Florida USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2009 7:01 am
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I buy and sell vintage guitars and amps. It is a very volatile market. Two years ago I sold a 59' LP Jr. in excellent condition for $8000 to another dealer. It would be extremely unlikely for me to get that amount today for the same guitar.
In this field one's reputation is everything. I have bought and sold several guitars from Gruhn. He is an honest businessman and certainly one of the most respected. I will most likely see him at the Columbus OH guitar show in June.
One could go on forever about vintage guitar prices. But this I have learned and will believe to my grave - Something is worth only as much as someone is willing to pay for it. You read or saw or heard somewhere that your vintage guitar is "worth" $10,000? Maybe, maybe not. A lot of factors come into play.
Two weeks ago I bought a 1941 Gibson blonde L-5 Premiere. Thirteen were made that year before Gibson went full-time into war production. In the price guides that guitar lists for quite a few $$$. For a lot of very objective reasons, I know that's not what I'm going to get, should I ever decide to part with the instrument. Be smart, be informed, be patient, know the market, and know yourself. |
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