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Topic: Tone is it in the hands or gadjets we buy.??? |
Dan Murphy
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Missouri, USA
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Posted 17 Apr 2009 4:49 pm |
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| Hi fellow steelers, I thought I would start a thread and see just what the general oppion is . Ill go first I think its 80 % tallent and touch and 20% equipment. |
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Bob Knight
From:
Bowling Green KY
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 17 Apr 2009 6:26 pm Re: Tone is it in the hands or gadjets we buy.???
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| Dan Murphy wrote: |
| Hi fellow steelers, I thought I would start a thread and see just what the general oppion is . Ill go first I think its 80 % tallent and touch and 20% equipment. |
Here we go again... Dan, no offense meant as you may not be aware, but this subject is one of the most actively and hotly debated subjects on the Forum. If you do a search you will have enough reading for days on end, and we won't all have to type it all over again.
By the way, just to make a long story short, it turns out the answer is 'Yes'. 
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Dave Mudgett
From:
Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Robert Harper
From:
Alabama, USA
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Posted 17 Apr 2009 7:02 pm To Some Extent
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I believe to some extent the accessories do affect the sound. This can easly be proven by disconnecting the toys connected in line with the guitar, including the volum pedal. There also is some difference in the guitars . I have had a Fender/Sho-Bud for about 26 years, I played daily until the last yeat. I now play a MSA. They are totally different guitars. Heres the kicker. I recently had the MSA converted bach to a 12 sring. The person who converted the guitar has played nearly all hs life. He made the guitar sound totally differrent. So IMHO all thee variables, from my experiences, make a difference. the largest being the player
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Ron !
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Posted 17 Apr 2009 7:16 pm
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| Tone is it in the hands or gadjets we buy.??? |
I say it is all in your head.Your brain directs your hands.If there is something your brain cant comprehend then your hands won't follow.
How did they do it in the olden days?There where no Nashville400's, Steelkings, Profex's or Tubefex's.
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Ulric Utsi-Åhlin
From:
Sweden
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Posted 17 Apr 2009 9:43 pm
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| ...and let´s not forget "Ear Of Beholder"...McUtsi |
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 17 Apr 2009 11:31 pm
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Tone is definately 100% in the gadgets, the more gadgets in the chain the better, and don't forget that the more expensive units will make you sound even better, especially if you have a super-expensive multi-faceted strobe tuner with a flashing display that wouldn't look out of place on a Las Vegas one-arm-bandit gambling machine  |
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Richard Damron
From:
Gallatin, Tennessee, USA (deceased)
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Posted 18 Apr 2009 7:36 am
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Amen - Jim Cohen
And thank you - Dave Mudgett |
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chas smith R.I.P.
From:
Encino, CA, USA
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Posted 18 Apr 2009 10:45 am
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| Clearly, it's in the gadgets we buy, otherwise we'd have to learn to play the instrument... |
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 18 Apr 2009 11:31 am
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| By the way, just to make a long story short, it turns out the answer is 'Yes'. |
Jim - Are you sure? I thought we finally decided the answer was 'No'. |
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Rick Campbell
From:
Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 18 Apr 2009 11:44 am
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| Yep, it's all in the gadgets. Whoever spends the most money on preamps, effects, tuners, etc.... sounds the best........ that is until somebody like Dicky Overbey comes along with nothing but an RV-3 and blows everyone away. I'd say a "decent" setup and a lot of practice and talent is what makes it work. |
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Bent Romnes
From:
London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 18 Apr 2009 2:23 pm
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| I'll go along with Rick here , with a BIG emphasis on "practice" |
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Joe Miraglia
From:
Jamestown N.Y.
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Posted 18 Apr 2009 2:58 pm
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I never bought a Pack O Seat,I't just a gadget,I use a panio stool  Joe |
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rodger_mcbride
From:
Minnesota
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Posted 18 Apr 2009 5:48 pm The Secret
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It's all in the shoes...
rodger |
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Jim Sliff
From:
Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 18 Apr 2009 5:55 pm
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Sometimes it's a combination of hands, eyes...and brain. Seek and ye shall find:
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=guitar+tone&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
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1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional |
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John P. Phillips
From:
Folkston, Ga. U.S.A., R.I.P.
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Posted 18 Apr 2009 6:08 pm
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I think it's whether you wear boxers or briefs !
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Bill Dobkins
From:
Rolla Missouri, USA
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Posted 18 Apr 2009 7:24 pm
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| Joe Miraglia wrote: |
| I never bought a Pack O Seat,I't just a gadget,I use a panio stool Joe |
You go Joe...
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 19 Apr 2009 3:00 am
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I have to say this: A couple of days ago I was fooling around with a gadget: an old MXR 10 band equalizer. And just to test out the unit, I plugged my hollow body jazz guitar into it. Now the guitar sounds good by itself, but that EQ unit shot its tone up into the stratosphere.
I've not tried it out on my steel yet, but if it does for my steel what it did for that guitar, hey, we're not just talking about tone to the bone, but tone right down to the capillarities inside the marrow.
Tone is in the hands, the guitar, the amp, AND the gadgets, when they are used properly.
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 19 Apr 2009 6:49 am
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in order to save precious time, just spend the $$$ on these :
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Joe Miraglia
From:
Jamestown N.Y.
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Posted 19 Apr 2009 7:07 am
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oops  Joe |
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Bill Hanson
From:
New York, USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2009 5:56 am
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| Hey CrowBear, you must be a photoshop geek and a steelmonger simultaneously. |
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Jim Sliff
From:
Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2009 6:32 am
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No, he just knows of one of the websites familiar to most of the Tele players on the web:
http://www.angelfire.com/yt3/redtele/
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No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 23 Apr 2009 7:51 am
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You must have top-notch equipment! No self-respecting pro would ever use a cheap guitar. Even in the world of straight guitar players, none of them would ever use a cheap, off-brand...like a Danelectro (whose guitars were sold by Monkey Wards and Sears Lowbuck).
(Uhh, that is...except for Dave Matthews. And Link Wray, and Bruce Springsteen. And, oh yeah, Frank Zappa. Of course, let's not forget Kid Rock. Yes, I think Jimmy Page played one, too. Then there was Stevie Ray Vaughn. And...well...you get the point.  )
Any fool knows the music played on a four-thousand dollar guitar sounds twice as good as the same music played on a two-thousand dollar guitar. 
Yep. Lotsa 'spensive gadgets. That's where it's at! |
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