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Topic: Emmons PP Problem |
Danny Letz
From:
Old Glory,Texas, USA 79540
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Posted 2 Apr 2009 3:47 pm |
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| I recently aquired a PP. I'm starting to like it. I have, I think, just one string that is going out of tune in the no pedal mode. The allen screw for that one seems awful loose. Could it be the culprit? What would you put on it to stop it from moving so easy? Blue Loctite? Looks like there was something red on them originally. Also it is # 1702 S, an S10. What year is it? It has Legrande pedals. |
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Jerry Roller
From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 2 Apr 2009 6:09 pm
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Danny, a common fix is to remove the tuning screw and put a compression spring on it and put it back. The spring puts pressure on the screw to keep it from vibrating and moving.
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Matthew Prouty
From:
Warsaw, Poland
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Posted 2 Apr 2009 6:38 pm
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Danny,
I had the same problem on mine. I got and was constantly tuning it. I flipped it over, cleaned all the screws and put the blue loctite on all the screws. I almost never have to tune the guitar now. Its strange, but I set my guitar up today on the big stage at Country Thunder and did not even worry about tuning it until it was show time. 10 seconds to tune the 6th string and I was good to go. The rest were locked in.
m. |
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Dave Diehl
From:
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
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Posted 3 Apr 2009 3:31 am
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| Not sure about the Loctite. That is not really a friend of things on a guitar that are there for adjustment. Jerry will lead you right. |
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Matthew Prouty
From:
Warsaw, Poland
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Posted 3 Apr 2009 5:13 am
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Yeah there's a couple different loctites. You have to get the one thats "Reusable". Its the blue one.
m. |
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Trevor Fagan
From:
Newfoundland, Canada
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Posted 3 Apr 2009 6:30 am
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Yup, what Matthew said.... I use Loctite as well, with good success. Just don't use the permanent stuff.
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Gary Cosden
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 3 Apr 2009 6:33 am
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| To the best of my knowledge the red or orange locktite is the reusable kind. Here is one thing that I know works well: look at the distance from the head of the adjustment screw to the finger and take a spring from a ball point pen and cut it about 25% to 40% longer. Remove the screw and put the spring on and then replace the screw. Worked on mine for 25 years. Mine was 1423S and was made in 1974. |
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Gary Cosden
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 3 Apr 2009 6:34 am
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| To the best of my knowledge the red or orange locktite is the reusable kind. Here is one thing that I know works well: look at the distance from the head of the adjustment screw to the finger and take a spring from a ball point pen and cut it about 25% to 40% longer. Remove the screw and put the spring on and then replace the screw. Worked on mine for 25 years. Mine was 1423S and was made in 1974. |
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 3 Apr 2009 6:35 am
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| Dave Diehl wrote: |
| Not sure about the Loctite. That is not really a friend of things on a guitar that are there for adjustment. Jerry will lead you right. |
P/P's came from the Emmons factory w/ Loc-tite on the tuning screws........usually the blue stuff, but I've even seen a few with the red Loc-tite applied as well. |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 3 Apr 2009 6:44 am
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The red stuff that Emmons used was from a different company than Loctite.
The stuff to use from Loctite is blue.
Somebody suggested taking the screw out, apply the Loctite to the screw, put it in an oven and cook it until it dries, and then re-install it. |
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Steve English
From:
Baja, Arizona
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Posted 3 Apr 2009 7:55 am
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Side note:
If there's one in your area, both red and blue are available at Harbor Freight stores for less than $2/tube.
Or, there's always the wife's fingernail polish. 
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Danny Letz
From:
Old Glory,Texas, USA 79540
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Posted 3 Apr 2009 4:01 pm
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| The blue loctite is the medium strength. My experience on farm machinery is that it holds screws tight, but also coats them so they will come out instead of rusting in place. I thought of the spring, I've seen that used in other applications. I'll try one or both and see what happens. Still would like to know the year model. |
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Danny Letz
From:
Old Glory,Texas, USA 79540
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Posted 4 Apr 2009 2:55 pm
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| One more question please. On the strings that do not lower, does it hurt to screw the lower tuning screw in until it holds the finger against the stop? Does that help keep the open string in tune? |
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