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Topic: Half Stops on Kline's |
Gavin Dunn
From:
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 28 Mar 2009 11:44 pm |
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| I have no adjustments on the changer block...is there another way? |
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Jim Palenscar
From:
Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 29 Mar 2009 7:06 am
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| Look under the guitar. |
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Gavin Dunn
From:
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 29 Mar 2009 7:39 am
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| Que? |
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Jim Palenscar
From:
Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 29 Mar 2009 7:58 am
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| I'm not familiar with Kline's method of doing it but there are just a few ways to accomplish a 1/2 stop- one uses another string that kicks in at the appropriate note, one uses a separate and dedicated 1/2 stop finger to do it, and another uses an adjustable spring located under the guitar. To determine which you have- look under the guitar and see what is happening when the 1/2 stop starts to engage and you'll have the answer on how to adjust it. I'm sure I've forgotten other methods but none are difficult to understand once you see how they work. |
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Gavin Dunn
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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 29 Mar 2009 12:18 pm
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| It's a bit of a different design than most guitars and there's no obvious splits. |
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Jim Palenscar
From:
Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 29 Mar 2009 1:44 pm
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| Somewhere along the travel increased resistance is occurring and that is your focus. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 30 Mar 2009 4:04 pm
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It's been a long time since I had my Kline, but I seem to remember that you used the 2 string method where you have the second string lower first to D and then the other (maybe 9th string or a C6th string) string on the lever kicks in as you continue to C#. The adjustment was done where the rod hooks onto the triangular piece that the rod attaches to. You loosen the set screw holding the rod and adjust it by sliding the rod toward the changer making the hook on the rod activate the additional string later in the travel. Tighten it down and check to see if it's where you get a D note where the extra resistance kicks in. Keep adjusting until it works.
Like I said, it's been many years since my eyes and fingers have visited a Kline undercarriage, but I believe this was how it was done. I could be wrong though. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 31 Mar 2009 3:59 pm
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I wanted to bump this up because I am not positive that I have it right. It would be nice if others would verify or correct.
Or better yet, have you tried this? Did it work? |
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Paul Redmond
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 2 Apr 2009 11:30 pm 1/2 stop
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If you want a truly adjustable (tension AND pitch) 1/2 stop, check out the archives/past posts re: Steve Takacs' Kline pics posted last year by Cass Broadview I believe. Steve may have posted some himself. I made a fully adjustable (again, tension AND pitch) 1/2 stop for his guitar that covers all the bases.
Like the Kline guitar itself, it is a set-it-once-and-forget-it arrangement.
PRR |
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steve takacs
From:
beijing, china via pittsburgh (deceased)
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Posted 3 Apr 2009 5:50 am
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Paul Redmond is not blowing smoke. This half stop is the best I've ever used on a guitar. It moves easily to the half stop postiion, stops solidly, and with a little more force completes the full stop. Pure magic. Here is post that Cass Broadview put up:
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=145038&highlight=kline
Thanks again, Paul. steve t |
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Gavin Dunn
From:
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 4 Apr 2009 12:23 pm
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