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Danny Letz

 

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Old Glory,Texas, USA 79540
Post  Posted 16 Mar 2009 3:51 pm    
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I just took possession of a S10 Push Pull Emmons. It has a George L E66 pickup. My understanding was that this pickup was designed to make other guitars sound like a 66 Emmons. My S10 should sound similar to a 66 Emmons. Why would it need a E66? I'm just gettin started with this guitar, but am so far underwhelmed.
It looks as if the strings may be really old. I'll take care of that shortly. Does the PP use normal string sets? What new pickup would you PP guys use. If I do change it, I'd like to put in a new pickup and not take a chance on a worn out old PP pickup. Just starting to gather info. You opinion would be appreciated.
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George Crowder

 

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Richmond, VA, USA
Post  Posted 16 Mar 2009 4:17 pm    
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Hey Danny, I recommend a Jerry Wallace Truetone pickup. Or you could get an old Emmons single coil and have Jerry rewind it for you. Jerry's work is outstanding.
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Danny Letz

 

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Old Glory,Texas, USA 79540
Post  Posted 16 Mar 2009 4:42 pm    
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Please delete three of these. My computer would't move from the post and I kept pushing submit thinking it was not responding. What a computer idiot.
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Russ Tkac


Post  Posted 16 Mar 2009 5:03 pm    
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Danny,

My Emmons S-10 sounds real nice. It has the Emmons single coil pickup and is from 1971. I don't know much about them and only got this last April but I like it. How does yours play? I might suggest you get a PP person to check it out and give you an opinion on what it might need. Texas should have a few good ones.Smile

All the best,
Russ
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 16 Mar 2009 6:28 pm     Re: Question On PP Pickup
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Danny Letz wrote:
I just took possession of a S10 Push Pull Emmons. It has a George L E66 pickup...You opinion would be appreciated.


Put new strings on it, and then play it!

Always get to know your guitar before you go changing things.
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Dave Mudgett


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Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
Post  Posted 16 Mar 2009 8:24 pm    
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I agree with Donny - I would clean, polish, and lube the guitar if needed (esp. the changer fingers), put fresh strings on, and try the E66 pickup out. If you don't like it, you can always change it later. Why rush before you really check it out?

One of the big advantages of George L's pickups is that they are humbucking and generate a lot less noise from electromagnetic interference than a comparable single coil pickup like the original Emmons or Truetones. That also goes for a number of other pickups like Lawrence or Tonealigner. If I didn't like the E66, I'd probably try one of my old Lawrence 705's on it, but they're not that easy to find if you don't already have one.

As far as an "old worn out P/P pickup" goes - an awful lot of people swear by 'em. I won't take mine off my '74 P/P even though I generally use Lawrence humbuckers. OK, they're not humbucking, but they sound great to me.

The scale length on an Emmons guitar is 24.25", so I would think that any "normal" E9 pedal steel set somewhere in the vicinity of (top to bottom) 13, 15, 11, 14, 17, 20, 26, 30, 34, and either 36 or 38 on the bottom string would be typical. I like GHS stainless E9 sets, which have these gauges. But that is entirely a matter of personal taste.
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Danny Letz

 

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Old Glory,Texas, USA 79540
Post  Posted 17 Mar 2009 4:43 pm    
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No I didn't say it played bad. As I get to know how to tune it, that's OK. It's just that I was slightly dissipointed with the sound. I bought it over the Forum, but it was at Bobby Bowmans, so I got him to change and adjust it. As I said I'm just getting started with it and was just gathering information. I do a little repair work on steels for my friends and one reason I got it was to see how they tick. I got a couple of good brain overload lessons on how to adjust them from Bobby Bowman and Bruce Zumsteg.
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