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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 20 Feb 2009 7:03 pm    
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Andy Sandoval


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Post  Posted 21 Feb 2009 1:44 am    
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Sounds great Doug, what tuning are you playin? A6?
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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 21 Feb 2009 3:49 am    
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Nice, Doug!

Here are arrangements of Nuages and Manoir that I did in A6th way back in 2001 (and probably the last time I played 'em):

http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum8/HTML/001091.html

http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum8/HTML/001084.html
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 21 Feb 2009 11:15 am    
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Thanks Andy & Andy! The tuning is B11. Andy, I'll try your arragements when I get some time, thnx
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Alan Brookes


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Post  Posted 21 Feb 2009 11:23 am    
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I liked the steel playing, but I've always thought that the slow, walking rhythm on Django's original recording was a major part of the arrangement. I don't like the rhythm backing you've used. Wink
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Alan Brookes


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Post  Posted 21 Feb 2009 11:27 am    
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I liked your steel playing, but I've always thought that the slow, walking rhythm on Django's original recording was a major part of the arrangement. I don't like the rhythm backing you've used. I think it would be excellent if you did it again, with a jazz backing mainly on brushes.Wink

Andy Volk wrote:
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum8/HTML/001091.html
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum8/HTML/001084.html

I couldn't get these links to open for me. I think they're restricted to Forum8 members. Perhaps you could repost them in the general part of the Forum.
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 21 Feb 2009 11:35 am    
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I've always thought that the slow, walking rhythm on Django's original recording was a major part of the arrangement.


Yes, Django's "orchestra" recording is quite a bit slower than my demo, but the "Hot Club" recording with Stéphane Grappelli & Django is slightly faster than my demo. That's the one I'm used to hearing. Grappelli was a God IMHO. And Django... he was from another planet! Winking

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I don't like the rhythm backing you've used. Wink


What rhythm backing? Laughing




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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 21 Feb 2009 11:36 am    
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I couldn't get these links to open for me.


Andy's links work for me. Make sure you're "signed in" to the Forum.
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Alan Brookes


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Post  Posted 21 Feb 2009 11:47 am    
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The Forum Computer wrote:

Stop posting duplicates, Brookes, you Dufus... Razz Razz

Oops ! Sorry ! Embarassed Embarassed


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Alan Brookes


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Post  Posted 21 Feb 2009 11:50 am    
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Doug Beaumier wrote:
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I couldn't get these links to open for me.

Andy's links work for me. Make sure you're "signed in" to the Forum.
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I don't like the rhythm backing you've used. Wink

What rhythm backing? Laughing

I was having problems with the Forum, so I rebooted, and this time Andy's links loaded.
By rhythm backing, I was referring to the percussion.

Thanks for including that picture of Django and the Hot Club of France. I copied it to my hard disk. He's always been one of my favorites, too. Cool
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Bob Hoffnar


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Post  Posted 21 Feb 2009 12:10 pm    
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here is a version of Nuages I did recently. I put it on my myspace page:

http://www.myspace.com/bobhoffnar
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Kay Das


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Post  Posted 21 Feb 2009 12:38 pm    
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Lovely lead picking, I kept yearning to hear a rhythm and a bass...and yes, maybe some brushes... please consider adding... very pretty, anyway, as is.

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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 21 Feb 2009 9:01 pm    
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Bob, nice job on Nuages, and an interesting tone.

Thanks Kay, yes, it sounds empty without bass and other backing. It was a quick recording to demonstrate how this tune would sound on B11. Sometime I'll do a better recording of it. That's on my l-o-n-g "to do" list! Winking
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Cartwright Thompson


Post  Posted 22 Feb 2009 5:38 am    
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I really like the latin feel of your version Doug.
Check out Mike Fried's take on it:
http://www.hsga.org/new_design/MikeFried.htm
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Mike Bagwell

 

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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2009 6:08 am    
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Great job !


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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2009 9:12 am    
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Thanks Mike and Cartwright, I like Mike Fried's B11 version too. The latin feel sounds right to me because I remember Chet Atkins played it that way. I heard his version hundreds of times back in my college daze. I had a lot of Chet vinyl back then, before CDs, and before cassette tapes!

Here's an amazing live Nuages by the Rosenberg Trio. These guys are all over it! ---> NUAGES
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Alan Brookes


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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2009 6:30 pm    
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Doug Beaumier wrote:
...These guys are all over it!...

Yes, they're all over it, and around it, but not through it. Whoa! This is more an exercise in guitar dexterity than playing the tune. Simpler is better. Wink
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2009 6:48 pm    
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I enjoy their music, but I can see how some people wouldn't like it. The words of Jimmy Day (or was it Chet Atkins) come to mind... I wish I could play that fast. And if I could... I wouldn't! Winking

The Rosenberg Trio would probably argue that Django's playing was anything but "simple".
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Mike Bagwell

 

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Post  Posted 23 Feb 2009 4:33 am    
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I'm working on a version on C6 tunning. I noticed that your recording and Andys tab are in the key of F, while the Django recording is in the key of G. Is that a result of the B11 or the A6 that Andy uses, or is F the key everyone just plays it in. I even saw a finger style arangement for regular guitar in the key of F.

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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 23 Feb 2009 9:07 am    
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The song is written in the key of G in The Real Book, and in other books I've seen over the years. I don't know how many versions of Nuages Django recorded, but I have two of them: his slower "orchestra" version is in the key of F. The "Hot Club" recording with Grappelli is in G. In the F version the melody is played on clarinet, is slower and more clearly defined than in the Hot Club recording IMHO. So I listened to that one and learned it in F, and doubled checked it with the written music in G.

I like F better than G (on B11) because the 9th chord in the opening line is on fret 2 instead of fret 4. Lower sounds better for that, in my opinion. The chords have more 'growl' in the lower positions. Winking
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Post  Posted 23 Feb 2009 10:20 am    
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consider turntable speeds when thinking key.
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 23 Feb 2009 9:47 pm    
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what's a turntable? Winking
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Post  Posted 24 Feb 2009 2:21 am    
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Doug Beaumier wrote:
what's a turntable? Winking


lol it's like a lazy susan with electricity.
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Alan Brookes


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Post  Posted 24 Feb 2009 8:37 am    
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Doug Beaumier wrote:
what's a turntable? Winking

It's a device for turning steam locomotives.
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John Bechtel


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Post  Posted 24 Feb 2009 10:18 pm    
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Again, Doug; that sounds great to me! Try as I may, for many years; I just can't quite seem to bring out that Hawaiian~Flavor (timbre) in my playing! But, you have inspired me to spend a lot more time exploring the B11-Tuning. I plan to start on that in the morning!
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