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Topic: Does anyone pratice this way? |
Glen Derksen
From:
Alberta, Canada
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Posted 13 Feb 2009 7:44 pm |
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Brett Day
From:
Pickens, SC
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Posted 13 Feb 2009 7:51 pm
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I do that a lot, for example, my friend Katie Cook does a 1980s song called "Time After Time" for a movie soundtrack and the song has no steel, so I add the steel.
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Michael Douchette
From:
Gallatin, TN (deceased)
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Ray Minich
From:
Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 13 Feb 2009 10:35 pm
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Better for the ego than puttin' on a Ray Price tune from 1961 and tryin' to keep up with Big E 
Actually, there are to my mind many tunes out there that don't have steel but could or should.
"There won't be anymore" by Charlie Rich is one of 'em.
They are fun melodies to follow. |
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Ned McIntosh
From:
New South Wales, Australia
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Posted 14 Feb 2009 9:48 pm
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Odd you should ask this, but I have tried this several times, and one of the best songs to do it with is Sammi Smith's "Help Me Make It Through The Night", a beautiful ballad totally devoid of any pedal-steel. Just add your own backup!
This is also an excellent tune for playing some laid-back Dobro as well.
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Ray Montee
From:
Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 14 Feb 2009 10:25 pm Watcha driving?
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Hey NED!
Watcha drivin'? Looks like possibly a PIPER Chiefton or maybe even bigger and more luxurious?
Curious mind wants to know.......... |
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Ned McIntosh
From:
New South Wales, Australia
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Posted 15 Feb 2009 2:37 am
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Hi Ray,
I'm in the left seat of a United DC10-10 at Denver in 1999. The F/E was kind enough to shoot the piccie whilst I was transitting Denver for Winnnipeg. Nice, roomy flight-deck with superb view, especially straight down from the shoulder with those big side-windows. Handy for taxying! I have always loved the Diesel Ten; an airframe chiselled out of solid granite and the most tractable of the big high-bypass turbofans (the mighty GE CF6). The chance to get a flight-deck shot was too good to miss.
I have 2 aircraft at my home airport, but I don't fly the heavy metal. I use the pic because at the moment it's the only one I have for an avatar, until someone takes a few of me behind the steel, that is.
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The steel guitar is a hard mistress. She will obsess you, bemuse and bewitch you. She will dash your hopes on what seems to be whim, only to tease you into renewing the relationship once more so she can do it to you all over again...and yet, if you somehow manage to touch her in that certain magic way, she will yield up a sound which has so much soul, raw emotion and heartfelt depth to it that she will pierce you to the very core of your being. |
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Johan Jansen
From:
Europe
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Posted 15 Feb 2009 2:40 am
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Kinda how I make my living...
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Ray McCarthy
From:
New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2009 4:34 am
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I practise by adding steel to steel-less songs--several numbers by Don Williams, Merle Haggard and Waylon Jennings to name a few. I record the songs on two tracks of a four track recorder (Tascam DP004), then put my part on track 3, then do it a little different on track four, etc.
Also, I try to duplicate steel backups and breaks by the big guys--Huhey, Emmons, Franklin, Finney and so on. Sometimes I get frustrated and throw my hands up,  sometimes I get happy and feel like I can actually play the thing! 
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2009 5:32 am
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I practice to my Band in a Box songs and so far I am the best steel player on them Ha!
I have lots of songs if you guys want some I can send em on a email.. But don't tell anyone.
They'll be like tater chips... everybody will want them.
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 15 Feb 2009 10:41 am
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| Anybody remember the old "Music Minus One" recordings?" I don't think there were any 'country' versions, however. I know, I'm showing my age .... |
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 15 Feb 2009 10:50 am
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Glen,When I first started playing steel 1971?I bought a few Waylon Jennings records that didn't have any steel on them,they were promoted as "Folk/Country? and that's what I played along with when not trying to ape famous records. 
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John Groover McDuffie
From:
LA California, USA
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Posted 16 Feb 2009 7:57 am
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| what's practice? |
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James Cann
From:
Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 16 Feb 2009 4:00 pm
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| Actually, there are to my mind many tunes out there that don't have steel but could or should. |
. . . and this is not only a great opportunity to "find out," but also to practice playing-to-add rather than stand out. |
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Glen Derksen
From:
Alberta, Canada
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Posted 16 Feb 2009 7:44 pm
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| Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone. Ken, I'll email you. |
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Rick Myrland
From:
New Orleans
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Posted 17 Feb 2009 6:46 am
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| How are you certain you're playing in the correct key as the song? I like the theory of doing this but the few times I've done it became frustrated that I might not be in the right key. |
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Glen Derksen
From:
Alberta, Canada
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Posted 17 Feb 2009 8:18 pm
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| Rick Myrland wrote: |
| How are you certain you're playing in the correct key as the song? I like the theory of doing this but the few times I've done it became frustrated that I might not be in the right key. |
Well, after 30 years of playing guitar, I should know that.  |
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Tom Buur
From:
Denmark
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Posted 18 Feb 2009 10:21 am
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It's almost the only way I practise. I don't even care if the record already has a steel guitar, I just play along in my own way.
Having played 6-string for 47 years I know what music is about. Going back to simple exercises now learning PSG would be far too boring for me, so I put on some of my favorite records and have fun trying to play along. |
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Tommy Shown
From:
Denham Springs, La.
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Posted 20 Feb 2009 1:28 am
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That's basically how I learned how to play all my instruments.
Tommy |
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Ben Strano
From:
Nashville
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Posted 20 Feb 2009 9:57 am
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I used to play along to movie soundtracks learning most instruments. Unfortunately my steel is at the studio. I do put iTunes on random and try and play along. The only problem is every time I do that I know I should be working.
Might need to bring the steel home for a couple of weeks. |
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