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Topic: Can you help me get an ID on this guitar, please? |
Mike Harris
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Texas, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 8:58 am |
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This is for sale locally (more or less) and the seller doesn't know what brand it is--can anyone lend a hand (or a couple of eyes) in this matter?
Thanks!
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Michael Lee Allen
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Portage Park / Irving Park, Chicago, Illinois
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 9:10 am
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Don Wright
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Roseville California USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 9:12 am What The Heck Is This?
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The headstock covers and pickups appear to be Magnatone. In any event, it's obviously rare and has a cool look to it.
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Mike Harris
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Texas, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 9:32 am
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Here's a better head shot--pickups to follow in next post
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Mike Harris
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Texas, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 9:33 am
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This is the last pic--plate/pickups, etc.
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Michael Lee Allen
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Portage Park / Irving Park, Chicago, Illinois
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 9:36 am
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Mike Harris
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Texas, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 9:42 am
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| Is it in the 850.00 range in decent condition? Is it valued more for its collectibility than its worth as a modern instrument? |
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Michael Lee Allen
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Portage Park / Irving Park, Chicago, Illinois
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 9:50 am
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Michael Lee Allen
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Portage Park / Irving Park, Chicago, Illinois
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 9:53 am
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Mike Neer
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NJ
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 9:56 am
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These are nice sounding steels. They have design implementations from Paul Bigsby. Tony Locke plays one of these with Wayne Hancock.
I have a few of the 6 string guitars with this pickup and I like the way they sound.
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Don Wright
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Roseville California USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 9:57 am
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I don't know about the collectible aspect, but if you're gonna play it, it has the same features as a mid-50's Fender Stringmaster - Long scale necks, dual pickups on each neck, volume and Speedy West Boo-wah knob (sometimes referred to as a tone control) - for less than half the price of the more common Fender. I had a single neck version of this guitar several years back and it sounded good. To determine its value as a playable instrument, it's probably worth $250 - $275 per neck, so $850 sounds okay, but it's not a steal for this steel.(IMHO)
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Mike Harris
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Texas, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 10:21 am
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| Many thanks to all who responded--I now have all the info I need (and, wow, really quick, guys). |
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Ron Whitfield
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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 10:22 am Mike, Michael, anybody...
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Can further info be had to prove these PUs were of Bigsby origin? For years I've heard this stated, but have seen no hard evidence. Tho I appreciate Mike's 'implimentation' aspect.
I have Maganatone/Bigsby PUs in my Mag Mark V guitar, a guitar which was designed by Mr. Bigsby for Magnatone, the only company PA ever did so with, but are much different from the chrome covered style that is also often credited to him.
I had the single neck version, a Varsity styled guitar, that had these PUs, but wasn't floored by the overall tone, too middy, and hardly any bottom, at least wired the way it was.
The Maestro pictured looks like it may be in disstressed condition. Only if it were in much better cond. would it command the $850 price, unless these have somehow become highly sought after, which I doubt. |
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Mike Neer
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NJ
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 10:57 am
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I'm not sure which elements were designed by Bigsby, but here's an ad mentioning his name (courtesy of Michael Lee Allen):
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Ron Whitfield
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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 11:33 am Interesting...
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Strange they allude simply to 'Bigsby approved', whereas in the cats from 1960-ish they highly taught that PA was fully involved in the Mark IVs and Vs complete design.
I guess this vauge mention and the PUs quasi Bigsby look is where the questions lay.
Thanx for pointing that out, Mike, and making me squint like hell to read it, w/glasses! |
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Eddie Cunningham
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Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 11:41 am T-8 Magnatone !!
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| That steel looks just like the one I had previously owned . IMHO the Magnatone was the best sounding steel in that time era !! I believe they evolved from the Dickerson Co. steels. They had heavier metal chrome plates and sounded beautiful !! To my knowledge no country steeler in the States played them , almost all were on Fenders for the sharper sound , but I heard Barney Issacs play a Mag. D-8 on Hawaii Calls around 1953 and Webley Edwards commented on Barneys new Magnatone steel !! I loved the sound and priced them out but they were more $$$ than Fenders so I got a Fender !! I did pick up a T-8 Mag. around 18 years ago for $300.oo but sold it 3 years ago for $600.oo , wish I had kept it !! She was in perfect condition . Eddie "C" |
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 12:07 pm
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I think the pickups on the Mark III were more similar than the later versions. The Mark III was his first design and I think it might have been a non-professional model.
For one thing, he inspired the scale-length and the fretboard. I think those big knobs, too. The tone pot has a great boowah sound. Still, I'm not sure about the pup.
I probably shouldn't say this, but the G65 and G70 are, in my opinion, the best bang for the buck steel out there. I have one of each.
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Jay Fagerlie
From:
Lotus, California, USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2008 5:18 am
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Looks like mine, a '55 Maestro
Jay
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Mike Harris
From:
Texas, USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2008 7:58 am
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Whoa--now THAT looks like it's worth eight-fifty!
(and then some)
Jay, that is one handsome axe. |
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