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Topic: copedent question |
Jeff Waller
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marshall Illinois, USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2008 6:46 am |
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| i see on some tuning charts on the second string the knee is tuned D/C# can someone explain that to me which one do i tune the knee lever to the D or C#.. |
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richard burton
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Britain
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Posted 13 Dec 2008 6:53 am
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| Tune the knee lever to C#, and set the half-stop (if your steel has one) at D |
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Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 13 Dec 2008 7:14 am
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| If you do not have half-stop hardware, set it to D, the more useful tuning, and forget about the C#, a nice change but not essential. |
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Joseph Barcus
From:
Volga West Virginia
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Posted 13 Dec 2008 7:59 am
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I agree to me the D change is very useful listen to some mel streets material it is used alot in his stuff and plus the D is a 7th chord position same note as if you were at the 5th string A pedal pressed at say 3rd fret slide to the 4th fret with A pedal thats the same note as the D note on the second string and of course the D on 9. take a listn to buck owens sams place this 2nd string D position can be used here to make that intro play with it you will soon see whan I mean
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Larry Bell
From:
Englewood, Florida
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Posted 13 Dec 2008 9:21 am
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(no offense, Jeff, BUT)
I can't believe someone actually misspelled COPEDENT twice in the same word.
ChOrd PEDal arrangemENT
It's not one of my favorite words, but fer cryin' out loud guys, lets at least SPEL IT RITE. It's one of the few words we pedal steel players can claim as our own. 
And the others are correct. I use D for my 2nd string ever since Jimmie Crawford explained his rationale and I realized that I use the D more often than the D#, both with no pedals and A+B. I lower to C# on one lever and raise to D# on another, FWIW. And, as others have pointed out, if I were to do without C#, D, or D# on the 2nd string I would ditch the C#.
Some guitars have a spring loaded half stop and some have the 9th string D to C# in addition to the 2nd lowered from D# to C#. If you set the 9th to engage just as the 2nd hits D you will have a 'free' half stop between D# and C#.
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2008 9:53 am
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| I fixed the spelling in the title. Let it go. |
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 13 Dec 2008 10:06 am
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My LeGrande 111 was originally fitted with a half-stop mechanism - it worked, but it made that knee-lever (my RKR) far too stiff to use comfortably. That's the last thing I need while my right leg is dealing with the volume-pedal as well!
I had Dave Robbins look at it last year - his solution was to remove that factory-part, and he set the 9th string 'lower' to engage exactly when my 2nd string had lowered to a D note. That gives me 'natural' half-stop feel, and the knee-lever is now as smooth as silk!
I must confess that I've considered permanently tuning the second to a D. It's of far more practical use than the D#, especially when giving a 4th note when A and B pedals are engaged. I used to really struggle to get that 'half-stop' 'on the fly' when that RKR was too stiff, but things are much easier now. Still - I may give that D note a serious try....
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2008 1:28 pm
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| Roger Rettig wrote: |
| I must confess that I've considered permanently tuning the second to a D. It's of far more practical use than the D#, especially when giving a 4th note when A and B pedals are engaged. I used to really struggle to get that 'half-stop' 'on the fly' when that RKR was too stiff, but things are much easier now. Still - I may give that D note a serious try.... |
Don't do it. Consider that there are 7 major scale positions, and only 2 of them use the D note. The other 5 use the D#.
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Key of E
fret pedals knees
0 - or AB -
2 AB D
3 A F
5 - -
7 - or AB D
8 A FG
10 A F |
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