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Topic: I want both a G and D string on top of C6 ,10s! HOW????? |
Parr Bryan
From:
Nacogdoches,Texas
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Posted 6 Dec 2008 8:24 am |
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OK, been tryin' a G on top of C6 and like it lots!
But I'm use to D on top and got to have it!
Besides going to a 11, 12 string, or take off the bottom C (.66) and move 9th string to 10th what can I do???
I bought an old MSA D10 that had G on top of C6 AND
pedal 5 was the regular pull plus lowering 2nd string from E down to D. Strange? |
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Reece Anderson
From:
Keller Texas USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 6 Dec 2008 8:36 am
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Parr....When using a 10 string 6th tuning with the 5th on top, you can easily achieve the D note by lowering the 2nd string 1 tone.
Having the 5th string pulling at the same time is of course usable, but having it on a lever by itself provides many more musical advantages. I have been using that application on my right knee right for most of my career. |
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Greg Cutshaw
From:
Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2008 10:34 am
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Parr,
You might also want to consider raising the top C string to C#. This will give the G string back, three frets higher, along with a whole lot of other sounds, as explained in the link below. Of course it's not the same as having the G string in the base position for stuff like the old Pete Drake runs, but it gives you most everything else. I sometimes tune the top D string up to G for occasional use. I've seen Doug Jernigan do that also. Perhaps a scruggs style tuner would do the job if you picked a string gauge somewhere between the D and G notes.
Just temporarily tune your top C to C# and hold down pedal 5. At the 3rd fret, play strings 2,3,4 and 5. That's G E C A and so on!
The C# change also gives you the equivalent of the E9th E to F knee lever. Some people raise both C6 C's to C# on one knee, or you can get the lower one by using the 8th pedal.
C# change on the C6 tuning
Greg |
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Michael Haselman
From:
St. Paul
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Posted 6 Dec 2008 11:09 am
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Buddy Emmons says exactly the same thing about the C-C# change in his "Basic C6."
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Gordy Rex
From:
Southport, NC
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Posted 9 Dec 2008 6:56 pm
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Hey Parr
Just what Greg said...I wouldn't leave home without it. I raise both C's to C# with a knee.
Gordy |
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 9 Dec 2008 7:42 pm
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| I know this question is about 10-strings, but for future reference you might want to know that the E9/B6 12-string Universal has the equivalent of both G and D on the top strings. Of course that is F# and C# in B6 mode, but it's the same intervals. You will recognize the F# as the top string on E9, and it does double duty as the 5th in B6 mode (equivalent to G on C6). Many of us uni players these days lower the 2nd string to C# on the E-lower lever that gives the B6 mode. That does double duty as the 2nd note of the B scale (D on C6), and also as the 4th of the minor scale you get with the E lower lever. That's G#m, which is the IIIm of E9 and the relative minor of B6. Don't mean to side-track the thread. Just thought I'd throw this out as one of the many secrets of the Uni that aren't even mentioned in most D10 vs. Uni discussions. |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 10 Dec 2008 12:27 pm
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I have C-C# lever, but if that's not an option, you might consider losing the lowest C and make F your s.10.
On my Bigsby 8-string guitar, my C6 goes F to E, low to high.
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Fred Glave
From:
McHenry, Illinois, USA
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Posted 11 Dec 2008 2:29 pm
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Get an 11 string guitar and put the D on top with the G underneath!  Dave D made an excellent point. On the U12 you can do it. It is truly the best of both worlds. |
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