Realistic Dreams

Bill Hankey · From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

It has been my experience that musically related dreams can be a combination of bitter and sweet. Dreams can be uncanny, with realistic boundaries. Accumulated knowledge can slip away without leaving a trace of recall. IMO, daily activities become the foundations of bitter or sweet dreams. Problems of the day, are carried throughout the night. Minor disturbances can generate dreams with familiar faces, and with picturesque surroundings. Wouldn't it be eerie if dreams controlled our will to practice?

Duane Reese · Posted 30 Nov 2008 12:26 pm **Which type of "dream"?**

Mike Schwartzman · From: Maryland, USA

Bill Hankey · From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

Duane,

I'm definitely referring to nighttime dreams, not daydreams. This really amounts to much more than "meets the eye".

Billy Tonnesen · From: R.I.P., Buena Park, California

This is going to sound weird !

Periodically I will have a dream I am back playing with an old big Western Swing Band. The only thing is, my steel guitar is completely differen't with one neck shorter than the other, one neck has only four strings and I have no idea what the tunings and pedal set ups are, and I am expected to take the next ride. However, before I make a fool out of myself, I am out of the dream and saved.

Ken Lang · From: Simi Valley, Ca

This is not a steel related dream but from about the age of 8 I had a dream now and then that the lights went out and I couldn't turn them back on, and a terrible beast was going to attack me.

In my third year of collage an English teacher talked about if we didn't like what we were doing to leave. I walked out before the class was over and never went back.

That night in the dream I attacked the the beast and killed it. Never had the dream again.

Donny Hinson · From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.

Last night I dreamt I was awake, and when I woke up I was asleep! Laughing

(Apologies to Moran and Mack.)

Colm Chomicky · From: Kansas, (Prairie Village)

Last night I dreamed I was home and playing my steel at extreme volume with the windows wide open. It must have been true. The next day, needless to say, the whole neighborhood was complaining about my nocturnal emissions.

Bill Hankey · From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

Colm,

Peace, my good man! This is a family forum. Could I direct your attention to the intended premise of this thread? For example, trace back to 1958, when Phil and Don Everly recorded the hit song, "All I Have To Do Is Dream", on 45 RPM records? Millions of people loved their harmonies. All true, and so very true that dreams will allow the dreamer to fulfill lifelong wishes. The song written by Boudleaux Bryant and Felice Bryant, maintains the premise that dreams can become realities. Discussing the complexities of our dreams, and how they are instilled by wishful thinking, are directly related to traces of doubt, and/or an abundance of zeal. Very few challenges are as mind boggling as the study to overcome the difficulties of becoming an accomplished steel guitarist.

John Billings · From: Ohio, USA

When I was 15, I was just starting to learn guitar. I had a record called "Old Time Music at Newport." I was taken by Doc Watson's song, "Ticklin' The Strings." But all I could do was strum a few chords. By listening to the song at 16 rpm (which drove the rest of my family crazy), I had memorized every note. I knew where every note was. But I could not even begin to play the syncopated, alternating thumb style. Listened at 16 rpm again one night, and went to bed. When I woke up the next morning, I played the song from beginning to end with one try.

Bryan Daste · From: Portland, Oregon, USA

I have actually willed myself to practice pedal steel in my dreams - it worked, once. I was dreaming, flying through the air near my old middle school, when I realized I was dreaming and became 'lucid.' I thought, "pedal steel!" And one appeared in midair in front of me. I played a few licks which I remember thinking, "I gotta remember these," and then of course I woke up and forgot them. It was cool for a minute though!

Doug Beaumier · From: Northampton, MA

I too have dreamed of steel guitar licks and chord changes. I can't say for sure how much of it I have actually used in my playing though!

Roy Buchanan was once asked how he comes up with his licks, and he said "I think them up, mostly while laying in bed".
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Bill Hankey · From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

Doug,

Please do not confuse this "Interpretation Of Dreams" with the the one published in Europe in 1899. Because of widespread ignorance, the author received only $250 in 8 years by selling 600 books. This thread is strictly a matter of musically related dreams, that in affect, seemingly has much to do with attitudinal changes. When people say that so-and-so could use an attitude adjustment, that unspecified individual's dreams may play a part in a negative demeanor. I have been intrigued for years upon learning that Edison realized the benefits of short idea ladened naps. Creativity is linked in some way to sleep patterns. The next step would be to explain in detail how this is brought about. Raw unnerving fear is excluded in convincing other players to not become petrified upon hearing the name of the (steel guitar/singer/composer/lap steel/piano and bass guitarist from Mishawalka, Indiana. Unconscious conflicts weave irrational fears into hypothesizing that which is beyond our grasp. Hats, brand name steel guitars, musical associates, and many things applied to stage presence, sybolizes the "walk" of an individual. Many identities can be made long before the performer strikes the first note on the steel guitar.

Bill Hankey · From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

Mike Schwartzman,

After reviewing my thread a bit, I noticed that I neglected to respond to your response. Sort of looking back to see, if you were looking back at my original premise. I could be wrong in thinking that you could really hammer out any subject matter that relates to human behavior. Am I way off base in thinking this? You made a couple of comments that opens the thread to further discussion. If I am close in making these considerations, please respond in kind.

Mike Schwartzman · From: Maryland, USA

No, Bill you are not wrong at all. If I were more educated on the topic I could give a more detailed response. It's just that I have a friend who has studied the realm of dreams and interpretation thereof and is of the opinion that dreams can influence the will to practice or not to practice pedal steel guitar.
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Colm Chomicky · From: Kansas, (Prairie Village)

Sure it is possible that dreams may affect our desire to practice in certain circumstances. For example, if one dreamed of playing the steel in a certain way, there should be the natural temptation to then try to execute the same during practice.

But I think more importantly the time spent away from the steel or any form of serious study can offer new insights or perspectives. Such introspection may occur as the result of a dream, or perhaps simply occur while performing a menial task such as mowing the lawn. I tend to think that the brain needs some slack time to do a little rewiring or processing of the practice session.

But I am biased to think that slack time does not mean jumping to another task that bombards the brain with more stimuli such as playing a video game (which my kids do as soon as they get home from school-- much to my dismay). This I fear flushes the brain of the lessons learned before they can be contemplated and electo-chemcially processed into something useful in the cranium.

Bill Hankey · From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

Colm,

I would certainly turn an ear to your "brand" of logic. All of your points made, makes a great deal of sense. Awareness of an unfavorable situation that starts to bud in a person's surroundings, may become rooted securely, in spite of efforts made to reduce its chances of proliferating. I've noticed that to succeed in most efforts to overcome obstacles that impede progress, PATIENCE is required. Many of the most modern traits involving a need to participate by getting involved in some way, is wishful thinking. Expectations are running at the highest levels since the earliest times, that is, provided their are no personal obligations or engagements other than requiring someone to fulfill their needs. Countering this enigma in this part of the world, where some are gifted at birth, while others are made aware that they are absolutely void of the ability to carry a "tune in a bucket" isn't an easy task. PHYSIOLOGICAL differences, especially in the bony structures of the hands allow for great advantages in playing stringed instruments, such as the steel guitar. Of course, if there is a lack of patience and determination, nothing in the category of physiological differences will bring about important advantages.

Bill Hankey · From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

Ken Lang,

I've compared your monster with the MERCHANTS OF ARTIFICE, that are found wherever money is exchanged for goods delivered.They can be found anywhere, from a coffee and pastries shop, to larger sums for musical supplies purchased. In essence a few exchanges from pocket change to (C) notes making their way away from pocket cash, can create a monster of distrust. Sales pitches by the thousands crop up anywhere, anytime during a calendar year. Usually, duplicity and the urge to separate you from your pocket cash, are basic main goals. Can you remember the last time a MERCHANT said to you, "Here take this, no charge"? These merchants of artifices do their share of creating little monsters within the darkened sleeping quarters. A poor man on a lonely dead-end road once told me; "If you have money, you can buy your way out of anything." I would spend some time educating whomever takes part in artifices.

Bo Legg · Posted 3 Dec 2008 10:05 am

Most dreams are caused by indigestion. Having said that I am sure that any inspiration I receive involving PSG in my dreams is directly related to the burrito I ate before I went to bed.

John Billings · From: Ohio, USA

Come on Bo! You really must bump up your level of abstrusity to play here!

Bill Hankey · From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

Bo Legg,

Don't ever lose your brand of humor. People love to laugh, and treat others when possible. I'm sure that you've experienced the disappearing $20 bill at the local tobacco and news counters, or other overpricing registers. Perhaps you don't purchase cigaretts at roughly $6.00 per pack, or purchase magazines, I wouldn't know. There isn't a lot of humor in paying $1.50 for a gallon of water, or a silver dollar for a quart of milk.

Bo Legg · Posted 3 Dec 2008 1:52 pm

John, The benchmark for abstrusity here is the only level I wish to achieve less I loss my insignificants.

Bill, I don't smoke.

Bill Hankey · From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

Bo Legg,

Correct me if I'm in error of making proper distinctions. I do believe that abstruse is strictly an adjective. Are you trying to use the word as a noun? BTW, are you an ex smoker? If you've never smoked, that is a wonderful bit of news. You deserve a lot of credit. I've never supported the tobacco industry, and they will become penniless waiting for me to purchase their products.

Barry Blackwood · Posted 3 Dec 2008 2:40 pm

Bo Borland · From: South Jersey -

Ted Nugent said that he dreamt about being a smoking hot picker and when he woke up he could just burn up the frets... it was either a dream or a bad acid trip ..

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