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Topic: What's the difference in Fender Lap Steels? |
John Gretzinger
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Posted 18 Nov 2008 12:40 pm |
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I learned to play steel on a Deluxe 8 back in 1963 or so.
Looking at the ads on e-bay I have never seen one offered, but today did see a Stringmaster single neck 8-string offered for $1,199.99 that I would swear was my old Deluxe 8.
So, what is the difference between the various Fender Models? What makes a Stringmaster different from a Deluxe or something else?
Thanks,
Jdg
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 18 Nov 2008 2:01 pm
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There really is no single neck "Stringmaster".
Except this one I made myself:
BTW: I hadn't quite finished it when the picture was taken.
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Kevin Greenberg
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Lakewood, CA
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Posted 18 Nov 2008 2:01 pm Deluxe vs Stringmaster
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| Like Erv said. The Deluxe 8 is the single neck version of the Stringmaster. Stringmasters have 2 or more necks. The one on ebay is a Deluxe 8, but the seller doesn't know the difference. |
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John Gretzinger
From:
Canoga Park, CA
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Posted 18 Nov 2008 9:14 pm Re: Deluxe vs Stringmaster
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| Like Erv said. The Deluxe 8 is the single neck version of the Stringmaster. Stringmasters have 2 or more necks. The one on ebay is a Deluxe 8, but the seller doesn't know the difference. |
Thanks Kevin - I thought it looked like my old guitar and that seems like a very out of whack price for it. I can't imagine it selling for anywhere near that price.
OK, so Stringmasters are the multi-neck non-pedal steels. Were there any other names for the single neck instruments? Was the Deluxe series the double pickup versions and the "standard" single pickup?
Thanks,
jdg
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Kevin Greenberg
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Lakewood, CA
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Posted 18 Nov 2008 11:49 pm Deluxe
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| I believe the Deluxe only had 2 pickups after they stopped making steels with the trapezoid pickup. |
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 19 Nov 2008 7:36 am
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The early Fenders had a "boxcar" pickup, then they went to the "trapezoidal" pickup. There was just one pickup per neck on these models.
There were two pickups per neck on the Stringmaster series. There was no blend control on the early Stringmasters but then a blend control was incorporated under the bridge cover on the later models. |
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Rich Hlaves
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Wildomar, California, USA
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Posted 19 Nov 2008 10:38 am
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John,
I have a 1956 Deluxe 8. It is a blonde finish guitar and in collectable condition. These guitars are bringing this kind of $$ these days. Not long ago I saw a minty Deluxe 6 sell for $1200. A clean Deluxe 8 for $800-$1000 seems to be a pretty good deal today.
I have seen several on ebay lately, some a good value for their condition and others a little to "used" for what the asking price was IMO.
I'd have to say you are correct in calling the Deluxe the two pickup version of the standard single PU guitar. Those would have been Champs or Studio Deluxes (Champ with legs) at the time the Deluxe 6 & 8 where produced. Over all the features and the components of the Deluxe where much nicer than the single PU guitars.
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Stephan Miller
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Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
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Posted 19 Nov 2008 10:55 am
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The single-neck version of the earlier trapezoid-pickup Fenders was also called the Deluxe 8.  |
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Billy Gilbert
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Texas, USA
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Posted 21 Nov 2008 3:01 pm
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Like Erv, I have a single neck Stringmaster, assembled from parts bought on eBay. It has what seem to be original parts, except for the nut and fret-board. The body is the front neck from a multiple neck instrument.
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Michael Lee Allen
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Posted 3 Dec 2008 10:32 am
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Michael Lee Allen
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Posted 3 Dec 2008 10:34 am
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Michael Lee Allen
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Posted 3 Dec 2008 10:37 am
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Michael Lee Allen
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Posted 3 Dec 2008 10:39 am
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Michael Lee Allen
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Posted 3 Dec 2008 10:41 am
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Bill Creller
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Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
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Posted 3 Dec 2008 7:21 pm
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As always, thanks for all the pics MLA  |
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Garry Vanderlinde
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CA
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Posted 3 Dec 2008 8:21 pm
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It would help if you could put a date on the brochure photos you show. They are Great!...but it's so easy to get confused.
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Dean Gray
From:
New South Wales, Australia
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Posted 3 Dec 2008 9:00 pm Play Fender - Impress The Ladies
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Someone told me that playing an instrument was a great way to pick up girls....apparently older instruments have a certain appeal that only works on women of a similar vintage....
Anyway, here I am on my Deluxe 8, showing off my latest Don Helms lick to an appreciative pretty young thing.
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Bill Creller
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Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
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Posted 4 Dec 2008 9:07 am
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Tom Wolverton
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Carpinteria, CA
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Posted 4 Dec 2008 12:25 pm scale lengths
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| When comparing the Stringmaster to the Deluxe 8, I was wondering about something. The Stringmasters came in 3 different scale lengths, but (I think) the Deluxe 8 only was made in the 22.5" scale. Is this true? Has anyone ever encountered a longer scale (24.5" or 26") single neck (orginal) Fender? |
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 4 Dec 2008 12:30 pm
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Michael Lee Allen
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Posted 5 Dec 2008 2:25 pm
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Wally Pfeifer
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Illinois, USA
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Posted 5 Dec 2008 6:29 pm Which Fender
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Thank you MLA for all the photos of the Fender steels. I'm a little confused now. My Fender steel was described on my original sales slip as a Dual 6 Professional when I bought it new in the 1950s. But according to your catalog illustrations,- it is a Dual 6 Steel Guitar. Evidently the sales slip was made out wrong by the dealer. Do you kinow if there were any Fenders that looked like the Dual 6 but were called Dual 6 Professional ?
Incidentally, I still have it and it is in mint condition.
Thanks for any comments
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Garry Vanderlinde
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CA
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Posted 5 Dec 2008 10:12 pm
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Wally, the ad above does call yours a "Dual 6 Professional".
Does it have the Roman numeral fret markers?
I bet it sounds great 
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Wally Pfeifer
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2008 7:30 am Dual Six Steel Guitar
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Mahalo, Garry. I appreciate your comment. My steel has to be the Dual Six as it is exactly like the photo that MLA furnished. Selector switch on the end of the front neck, two pickups on each neck and everything else exactly the same. And, yes,- it does sound beautiful. However, I haven't played it for years as I had developed a nerve problem in my left shoulder, arm and hand and am unable to hold the bar properly or control it. Really ticks me off.
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