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Jerry Dragon


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Gate City Va.
Post  Posted 13 Nov 2008 9:19 am    
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from a newbie.

When I turn both necks pickups on I get a considerable drop in output from both pickups as opposed to using them singly. Is this the norm?
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John Ummel


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Arlington, WA.
Post  Posted 13 Nov 2008 12:21 pm    
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Hi Jerry,
Sounds like they may be out of phase.
What kind of guitar? can you see the wiring?
Either they're out of phase or there'e a bad connection or contact in the switch.
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John Ummel


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Arlington, WA.
Post  Posted 13 Nov 2008 12:29 pm    
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If it is a phase issue, swapping the wires on one of the pickups should fix it. As it is, the out of phase signals cause a cancelling effect. (IF that's the problem)
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Earnest Bovine


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Los Angeles CA USA
Post  Posted 13 Nov 2008 12:54 pm    
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Many people wire the 2 pickups in opposite polarity so that you can cancel hum by turning on both pickups. I think that's a good reason to leave them wired opposite.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 13 Nov 2008 1:14 pm     Re: Question on my Marlen
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Jerry Dragon wrote:
from a newbie.

When I turn both necks pickups on I get a considerable drop in output from both pickups as opposed to using them singly. Is this the norm?


Yes, it's perfectly normal. Without some sort of isolation circuit or separate controls, one pickup loads down (partially shorts out) the other, and you lose some of the signal...and also get a change in tone (due to the different impedance).
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John Billings


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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 13 Nov 2008 4:12 pm    
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Donny is correct! Also, many people think this gives the guitar a more Fendery, West Coast sound.
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Jerry Dragon


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Gate City Va.
Post  Posted 14 Nov 2008 12:37 am    
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thanx all. The guitar also sounds like it may have a ground issue. I get quite the hum at a medium volume. A deep hum. I have played many a single coil guitar and am used to the noise and this sounds more like a ground issue. I have to get in there and take a look at the wiring. Most if not all of it is visible.
I don't know the model of the Marlen but it is a '73
D10.
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Ricky Davis


From:
Bertram, Texas USA
Post  Posted 14 Nov 2008 9:43 am    
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Jerry; if you email me pictures> sshawaiian@austin.rr.com > I'll put them up here.
The serial number on the plate on the bottom of the steel; read backwards, is the year/month/day of being built.
You can run an extra wire from the ground of the input jack; to a screw point of the changer mounting for both necks....>that will properly ground the pickups to the strings if need be.
What are you running to after your volume pedal???
Yes single coils will hum; but that hum will become more apparent as the windings start looseing through the years in a pickup.
Donny; of course, is correct about when both pickups are on...you will loose full value of each; and they will be somewhat hum cancelling and a little thinner sounding.
Ricky
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Bob Moore

 

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N. Rose, New York
Post  Posted 19 Nov 2008 7:40 pm     Marlin
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Jerry I have a Marlen D10 and the same thing happens to me if I put it in the middle. I just use one neck at a time. Have fun. Bob
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