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Palmer
From:
New Bern,NC,USA
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Posted 20 Jun 2006 6:34 am |
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| Anyone know where I can find a ten string set of adjustable return springs. Will any of the builders sell them? Thanks, Jack. |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 20 Jun 2006 7:08 am
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| They look like springs with nuts in them. I'm going to attempt to stick a nut in a spring and see if that works. |
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Bobby Boggs
From:
Upstate SC.
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Posted 20 Jun 2006 7:34 pm
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| Emmons and I guess all the builders sell them?Should be a cheaper source? Anyone? |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 20 Jun 2006 8:53 pm
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Palmer, I bought a complete set of return springs w/screws for a 14 stringer from Sierra several years ago. I put them on another brand of guitar and they worked really great.
The downside is that they were very expensive....in the neighborhood of 10 bucks apiece.
If you can find the right springs, with a little ingenuity and a few shop tools, you can drill and tap the some round stock to a screw size and make them yourself. You need to match the stock to the springs so that it fits inside of the springs then just bend a coil over the end so it doesn't pull out.
It's a bit of work, but it can be done if you're up to it. Else just bite the bullet and buy them from one of the builders. Good Luck. JO [This message was edited by Jerry Overstreet on 20 June 2006 at 10:24 PM.] |
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Martin Weenick
From:
Lecanto, FL, USA
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Posted 21 Jun 2006 1:54 am
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Palmer, get the right size and weight spring and get some brass inserts (for wood)in 6,8, or 10-32 thread and just screw them into the spring on one end. The problem will be finding a spring with a right hand twist to accept the insert. Inserts can be found at any hardware store. I get my springs from Mcmaster/Carr. You will need to know the wire diameter in thousandth's and the diameter of the spring. Hope that helps.
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Martin W. Sho-Bud, Super- Pro.
Martin W. Sho-Bud, LDG.
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Palmer
From:
New Bern,NC,USA
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Posted 21 Jun 2006 3:14 pm
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| Guy's I really appreciate the info. Jack. |
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Jerry Roller
From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 21 Jun 2006 5:17 pm
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Palmer, I have 9 Emmons LeGrande springs with screws. I had to use one out of a set. I can help you with these 9.
Jerry |
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Jerry Roller
From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 21 Jun 2006 5:40 pm
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Oops, double post, sorry.
Jerry[This message was edited by Jerry Roller on 21 June 2006 at 07:24 PM.] |
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Fred Layman
From:
Springfield, Missouri USA
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Posted 22 Jun 2006 6:59 pm
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| I've made several 0f these inserts using 1/4" nylon screws and never had one to pull out yet. Tom Mooney put me on to that. I usually buy the longest screws available and saw the heads off. It really helps if you have access to a lathe so you can drill them straight through the center (with a 7-64 bit). Then with the screw still in the lathe, start threading the inside hole of the nylon insert with a 1/8" tap. Don't thread more than 3/4" inch at a time because you run the risk of breaking the tap. Then saw off 1/4" lengths and keep repeating the process until you have worked through the length of the screw. Put the spring in a vice with about 1/4" of the spring above the vice and tap the nylon into the spring with a hammer. No, it won't strip the threads. as Jerry Overstreet said above, tap the nylon in until you have about half a rung of the spring above the nylon. Bend the end of the spring around the end of the nylon, but not covering the center hole of the nylon. (I've done this a few times with a 1/4" metal bolt, but they are harder to work with and you avoid the problem of the insert rusting and the tension screw freezing up in the insert). |
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