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Topic: Out of the collector mainstream ( GC and Fender content) |
Jim Sliff
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Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2008 4:53 am |
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Here's another example of how far the pedal steel is out of the vintage guitar world. The seller is Guitar Center's Hollywood "Vintage Room", which is known for their collection of priceless pieces AND knowledge.
But on a simple Fender 1000 they blow it, again showing that vintage guitar collectors just don't know squat about steels. It's touted as a "first year 1957, all original" model.
Well, it doesn't have hog rings - that would indicate an early one. Except it has a black painted frame with badge, is missing the changer covers, and the small pulleys look to be a later type. Looks like a '60 or so with missing rings and covers. I wonder WHERE these guys are getting their ID info?
Here's the item number (the link is too long to post):
220292224425
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No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional |
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Chuck Snider R.I.P.
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West Virginia, USA - Morgantown, WV
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Posted 10 Oct 2008 7:11 am
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Hi Jim, maybe you should talk to GC about hiring you as an expert consultant on Fender stuff to keep 'em honest!!
-Chuck
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GFI U-12 Ultra Keyless, Carter Black U-12, both with Alumitones, and a sweet '70 Sho-Bud Permanent D-10, NV400 in Rick Johnson cabs, NV112, '73 Vibrosonic in Rick Johnson cabs, Hilton pedal, Steeler's Choice seat, Bessdang Gizmos from Dale Hansen, and a few other widgets and doodads.
I may not sound good, I just don't wanna sound bad. |
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Jim Sliff
From:
Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2008 10:14 am
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Hehe - actually I emailed them and they're correcting the description a bit. They get their info from the Gruhn book, which George even admits is shaky regarding steels. I've been to Fender functions at GC Hollywood and the vintage guys are pretty decent and appreciate info (my son worked at another store and had them calling me from time-to-time regarding a few other oddball instruments).
GC is one place that won't offer Aunt Alice $100 for late uncle Louie's '58 Strat - they'll work off of book price and just subtract the markup (that's on vintage stuff - mass-market stuff they, like others, don't give much for). When used stuff in the stores is WAY overpriced it's due to a store assistant manager messing up and giving too much away on a trade-in!
I'll probably be in the area next week and will take a look at it if I can.
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No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 10 Oct 2008 1:20 pm
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| Really, I can't fault them that much, as it is a very early model, and it appears they're only off by a year or two. I'd expect that in any appraisal where little can be proven (as in the case of these guitars) and that they're probably not trying to deceive anyone. In the world of straight guitars, a year or two can mean thousands of dollars difference in the value, but that will never be the case in the pedal steel market. |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2008 2:28 pm
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Jim, here's a site that makes tiny urls out of long ones. I use it a lot.
http://tinyurl.com/ |
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