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Topic: Best glue/cement for carpet on a case? |
Bill Moore
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Manchester, Michigan
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Posted 9 Oct 2008 6:28 am |
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I'm building a case, I'd like to know what you have found to be the best/easiest to use glue or contact cement to use for gluing thin carpet to a wood case. Name brands, where you bought it, would be helpful. Thanks,
Bill
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Bent Romnes
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London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 9 Oct 2008 6:32 am
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Bill I would go with LePage contact cement. There are 2 kinds..the water based and the thinner based. I would go with the water based. The other stuff stinks to high heaven and sends you on a trip without having to leave the farm.  |
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Bill Ford
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Graniteville SC Aiken
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Posted 9 Oct 2008 6:34 am
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Bill,
I have used 3M spray adhesive with good results on speaker cabs, and a rack unit.
BF
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 9 Oct 2008 6:53 am
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I would also go with the 3M stuff.
It's more forgiving than contact cement. |
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Doug Earnest
From:
Branson, MO USA
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Posted 9 Oct 2008 8:33 am
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| I built my own case for my first ZumSteel (1999)and used the 3M 77 spray adhesive. It has held up very well and is widely available at home centers such as Lowe's, Home Depot, Ace Hardware and your good old Mom & Pop stores. 3M 90 is a more heavy duty choice. Just follow the directions on the can. |
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Bill Moore
From:
Manchester, Michigan
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Posted 9 Oct 2008 10:28 am
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| Thanks, I'll look for the 3M. I have used contact cement before, not for a case, and you are right, it's not very forgiving. |
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Clyde Mattocks
From:
Kinston, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 9 Oct 2008 11:47 am
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If you're talking about sheer holding power, then nothing beats the old 3M stuff you have to use laquer thinner on. However, do the job outdoors
and don't put anything in that case for a week, leaving it open. The fumes will attack the finish on the instrument! Another tip, don't try to clean up spills or blobs right away. Let them set for a few minutes and duct tape will pick up the mess cleanly.
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 10 Oct 2008 1:44 am
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The 3M is good but you need to use it on both the wood and the carpet. I recently built a two piece case set for my Franklin. I also use the better grade carpet, there is a lighter weight grade but I don't advise using that. I've been buying my carpet from www.partsexpress.com
One note of caution, cover up areas you don't want glue on so the overspray doesn't contact them. |
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Jim Sliff
From:
Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2008 4:56 am
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Spray adhesives do not hold up well under heat, so they are not as effective as contact cement if the case gets out in the sun. I'd go with water-based contact cement. Contact cement is also FAR less expensive.
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Walter Killam
From:
Nebraska, USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2008 6:10 am liquid nails?
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| I've had pretty good luck applying liquid nails with a fine toothed adhesive spreader (don't know the correct term), and then rolling the carpet on with a cheap pasta rolling pin or ink breyer. It's relatively cheap, increases the open working time, and I haven't had it come apart on me yet. |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 10 Oct 2008 12:28 pm
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There is one style of carpet that is made for glueing and it has some type of coating on it. That is about the only type I would recommend something more substantial than spray glue.
But, there are catches, handle, corners hinges, etc attached to the cases and that helps maintain the glued carpet. Inside the carpet is stapled to the bottom and that also helps to hold it. There is not a problem with the staples as there is a 1" covered pad for the guitar so it is away from any staples. The inside top has "egg carton" foam and that same type of foam is used for the top and bottom of the Pedal bar/legs/rods case so again there is no staples that show or touch any parts of the guitar. |
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Bill Ford
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Graniteville SC Aiken
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Posted 10 Oct 2008 2:09 pm
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FWIW..I saw carpet in the automotive dept at Wal-Mart that is similar to what Partsexpress sells, you may want to look into this, also Lowes has a light grade carpet. I have a rack, and a set of speaker cabs that have the Partsexpress covering that I used 3M spray adhesive with no problems.The only problem with PX, they have an $8.75 min shipping, but they have a good assortment of hardware, latches, corners, etc.So if you have not bought the corners, etc, you can get it all in one place.
Bill
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 10 Oct 2008 2:48 pm
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I always buy the heavier grade carpet from parts express. I tried the lighter stuff and didn't like it.
I've built a lot of cases and used to use Tolex or something similar but started using carpet about 10 years ago and like it better than the vinyl/Tolex, except I did use a Blonde Fender type Tolex on my Nashville 112 cabinet build, and I used the Tolex glue that Antique Radio sells. (at one point in the 70's Bruce Zumsteg even asked me about building cases for his steels, when he was building his own, but I didn't want to get into that much production). |
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