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Topic: Nashvile 112 Settings |
Todd Brown
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W. Columbia , South Carolina
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Posted 30 Sep 2008 5:17 pm |
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The manual with the 112 has a suggested setting for E9 tuning. Just wanted to get some help from some of you pro's out there that are using a Nashville 112 on What settings you using, And what effects i.e.,steeldriver, delay, macthbox .
thanks for your help. Todd |
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Michael Douchette
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Gallatin, TN (deceased)
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Todd Brown
From:
W. Columbia , South Carolina
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Posted 30 Sep 2008 7:25 pm
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Thanks Mike  , any input on the effects issue in question? |
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Jonathan Cullifer
From:
Gallatin, TN
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Posted 30 Sep 2008 8:35 pm
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| I like a mid dip around 700-800. Your highs will be governed by your guitar. I like to keep the presence down. For practicing, I keep the bass up because it sounds more pleasing a small room. For gigging, I cut the bass way back to focus the power where it counts (and the low end doesn't make it off the stage usually). Also, the cabinet adds enough low end at higher volumes that I usually don't need much more. |
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 30 Sep 2008 9:12 pm
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| You will notice that if you set the bass at anything above "5" on a Nashville 112 you will distort the amp at higher volume. The secret to playing the 112 at higher volume is to set the bass at "5" or below and adjust your highs and mids to taste. This was revealed to me by one of Nashville's "Top Ten" last year. |
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Ray McCarthy
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New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 1 Oct 2008 2:02 am
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Beauty is in the ear of the beholder, but most players seem to agree to lower the mids in the 800 range. I've got mine at -6 right now. I usually keep my high and presence at around +3, reverb around 5. Low can be all over the park, depending entirely on amp position and location.
Derby SD-10, NV 112 TrueTone, George L cables |
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Ray McCarthy
From:
New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 1 Oct 2008 2:28 am
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| By the way, you really do have to break the speaker in these amps in, before you're getting the full tone quality. Hook up a CD player to it, crank up the volume and bass and play country music through it for a day or two. (Not necesarily all at once.) |
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Michael Douchette
From:
Gallatin, TN (deceased)
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Bo Borland
From:
South Jersey -
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Posted 1 Oct 2008 3:39 am
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My start settings are;
Pre gain 3 to 4
Bass 9 to 12
Mid -3
shift 700
high 9 to 12
pres 9-12
rev 2
gain 6
I use a little more bass in a small room, a little more highs on stage.
It works fine with microphone or a DI thru the PA |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 1 Oct 2008 4:53 am
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As with any amp, the settings will vary on whether you sit the amp on the floor or elevate it on a chair or amp stand. And it will vary depending on the guitar and pickups and what effects are in the loop. It will also vary depending on how new the strings are.
I've set all of my Peavey amps with the Parmid EQ control (Session 500, Nashville 400/1000/112) about the same - and I sit my amp on a stand.
Low +9 to +12
Mid -2 to -3
Freq 750 to 800Hz
High and Presence approx +1
I agree with "Mikey" if it distorts with the bass over 5 it needs repair. |
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Don Sulesky
From:
Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH
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Posted 1 Oct 2008 7:36 am
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To answer your effects question I use a Boss DD-5 with my dials all at 11 o'clock & mode set at 9.
I use the amp reverb set at 4-5.
Bass at +9
Mid shift at 800
Mid at -3
Highs and presence at 0
I also put my amp on a stand.
If it's on the floor the settings are adjusted according to the room acoustics.
I have found these numbers work fine for both my Emmons LeGrande II and ShoBud SuperPro.
Don |
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 1 Oct 2008 11:03 am
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Pre-Gain 6±
Low ±0dB
Mid –6dB
Shift 650Hz
Hi +6dB
Pres. +6dB
Rev. 4
Master 10
220ms± Very Subtle Delay (no-repeat)
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My T-10 Remington Steelmaster
Last edited by John Bechtel on 5 Oct 2008 11:24 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Todd Brown
From:
W. Columbia , South Carolina
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Posted 1 Oct 2008 4:32 pm
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I thank everyone for their input,gives me some good starting points. About breaking the speaker in ,Ray, your only the second person thats brought that up that I've found. I,ve been playing my 6 string lap steel through my new 112 for about 3 to 4 weeks daily at an average pre-gain of 3, and master about about 4. Is this enough to "Break In" the speaker.All opinions please!!!
What about effects? Everybody seems to say that a delay pedal,analog or digital, is a "must have" .But what else is a must have???
And why is the Steeldriver II, or III soooo expensive compared to the other effects,etc.. like Boss or Line 6.
Thanks again, Todd |
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 1 Oct 2008 5:07 pm
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I don't think any external-effect is absolutely necessary! It certainly is not ‘Natural’ or ‘Normal’! Even the On-Board Reverb is not exactly a necessity! It's an Effect! If someone uses nothing but the ‘Dry’ Amp. Sound, can you sincerely say that a Steel Guitar or a Lead~Guitar is not a pleasent sounding instrument?
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Todd Brown
From:
W. Columbia , South Carolina
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Posted 1 Oct 2008 7:25 pm
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| Excellent point John! Playing my lap steel straight through my vol pedal to the amp is sweet enough. Just wondering what all the hype is about 'em, eveybody seems to have all the pedals,PODs, and tone boxes and all the other junk that I can't think of right now. My point I guess is, do you need the effects, like the delay for example, to get that old school sound. I'm talking early Buck Owens records . Players like Mooney,and Brumley in the early 60's.That sound it seems all the steel players had in those days on almost every Nashville produced record. |
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 1 Oct 2008 7:40 pm
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I think in those days, most of the enhansing had to be done by the studio engineers! And a lot of it is still done that way, so; the external-effects are necessary to get ‘that’ studio-sound on stage. It's almost unfortunate, but; I think that's the way it is! You can tell the engineer how you want to sound and he can dial it in! Sometimes it's misleading!
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My T-10 Remington Steelmaster |
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Todd Brown
From:
W. Columbia , South Carolina
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Posted 1 Oct 2008 7:49 pm
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| Well, It'll be a long time before I come to getting some studio time . But just thought I'd ask the question more for just live playing or practice. |
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 1 Oct 2008 8:01 pm
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Chances are, if your happy with your sound, at least someone else will like it too!! In my experiences, I've had people to like my sound even when I didn't! Everyone hears things differently, sometimes! It's just that if I like what I'm hearing, I think I play better! Oh, btw; I don't think you'd consider me a Pro! I haven't had a good descent job in nearly 20-yrs.!
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<marquee> Go~Daddy~Go, (No), Go, It's your Break Time</marquee> L8R, jb
My T-10 Remington Steelmaster |
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Todd Brown
From:
W. Columbia , South Carolina
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Posted 1 Oct 2008 8:10 pm
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Point taken. I'll be getting my first PSG next week  . I'll try to get some pictures of it up so everybody can check it out.  |
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Ray McCarthy
From:
New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 2 Oct 2008 3:13 am
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| Todd, as far as break-in, it's not by any means an exact science. It's a gradual thing that happens--yours may already be done, or partially done. All I know is, when I first got my 112 I wasn't as happy as I wanted to be with the sound--couldn't seem to dial in the tone I wanted. But after playing for several weeks, 1-2 hrs a day, and after doing the CD thing for about 8 hrs, I came to a realization one day that I was now very pleased with the tone, which I still am. Good luck with it all. |
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Don Sulesky
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Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH
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Posted 2 Oct 2008 4:26 am
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When I first got my NV112 3 1/2 years ago I was alternating between it and my NV1000.
After awhile I noticed that I liked the sound from the NV112 much better than the NV1000 which I found to be full of too much highs.
So not only because of the weight and tone differnce I sold my NV1000 and to this day I don't miss it.
To add to your point about delay etc.
I find that the delay and reverb seem to add to the sustain and sweetens the tone of the steel if used moderatly.
Don |
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 2 Oct 2008 9:41 am
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I agree, the secret is ‘moderation’. It should be felt, rather than heard!
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<marquee> Go~Daddy~Go, (No), Go, It's your Break Time</marquee> L8R, jb
My T-10 Remington Steelmaster |
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Larry Bressington
From:
Nebraska
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Posted 3 Oct 2008 1:11 pm
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| There's no smiley face rules to follow, close your eyes when setting it up, so you hear with your ears and not your eyes,your ears will tell you whats right for you!! |
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Ernest Cawby
From:
Lake City, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 3 Oct 2008 6:47 pm hi
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I think Mitch D nailed it, my volume is at 1, with a DD3 is all I use, reverb at 2 or 3, with BL 710 High is at 3, presence at 3, Master gain all the way up, shift at 800, Lou said at the club jam it sounded as good as anything there, playing a Mike Weenick SD10 guitar.
ernie |
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Ernie Renn
From:
Brainerd, Minnesota USA
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Posted 4 Oct 2008 12:46 am
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Buddy had his set like this in his basement.
This was before he started using Brad Sarno's Revelation preamp.
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My best,
Ernie
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