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Topic: Extended chord voicings for the standard guitar |
John Rosett
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Missoula, MT
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Posted 28 Sep 2008 11:12 am |
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| I caught the Time Jumpers on PBS last night with the late John Hughey on steel. His playing was just incredible, and I loved alot of the really jazzy chord voicings he was using in his solos. I've heard other great steel players using chords like these, ans I'd like to be able to use some of these voicings on the standard guitar. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks |
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Jim Saunders
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Houston, Texas, U.S.A.
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Posted 28 Sep 2008 6:44 pm Chords
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| John, I learned about every jazz chord I know from a Mel Bay Book entitled "Modern Orchestral Chords". He showed all of the positions and how substitutions can be used. Like maj7 and maj6 instead of just several bars of a major. Or using 9ths, 13ths, 7thb5, etc. I only have a basic knowledge of progressions, but there are many books you can go to, including Mel Bay's. Mickey Baker also has a good one for substitutions. |
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Eric Philippsen
From:
Central Florida USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2008 7:11 am
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| As Jim mentioned, Mickey Baker's Book One is recommended. It is outstanding. I learned my fundamental jazz guitar changes and chops with it. Yes, it was first published in the fifties (?), decades ago. But it's still being published you can still get it, and there's really no bigger or better endorsement that that. |
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Greg Cutshaw
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Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2008 11:25 am
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I see a Book 1 and a Book2 and other references to a Mickey Baker Jazz Guitar course. Is this the book in question(?):
Jazz Guitar Book
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Jim Saunders
From:
Houston, Texas, U.S.A.
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Posted 29 Sep 2008 6:25 pm Mickey Baker Book
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| Greg, this book has a different cover than mine did, but it must be the same. Mickey Baker is the Mickey from Mickey and Sylvia that had the big hit, "Love is True", or "Blue", I don't recall. But, the book was full of good tips for movable chords and chord substitutions. I had book one. Book 2 may cover jazz improvising? |
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Charles Davidson
From:
Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2008 6:50 pm
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Jim,the song is LOVE IS STRANGE,brings back teen age memories for me.DYKBC.
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Hard headed, opinionated old geezer. BAMA CHARLIE. GOD BLESS AMERICA. ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVIST. SUPPORT LIVE MUSIC ! |
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Jim Saunders
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Houston, Texas, U.S.A.
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Posted 29 Sep 2008 7:05 pm Oh yea!
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| Yes, "Love is Strange". Now I recall. It had that distinct intro and riff that I used to do. Maybe I still can? Dong, tong, dong, tong, d-o-n-g, tum de dum. |
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Brint Hannay
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2008 8:34 pm
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| Modern Chord Progressions by Ted Greene is a cornucopia of chord voicings for guitar. Some of them are extremely physically challenging, but it's a wealth of information. |
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Dave Mudgett
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Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 29 Sep 2008 9:36 pm
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If you can find it, I really like the Mel Bay book "Guitar Fingerboard Harmony" by Ed McGuire (Edward F. McGuire). Ed was a teacher in the Central Pennsylvania area for some years until he died in the early 80s. I know quite a lot of his students, and he managed to convey an excellent understanding of harmony, progressions, chord usage, and voice leading. The book is far from just an encyclopedia of chords - he's very perceptive about chord usage.
I believe the book is out of print, but I see that amazon has some used copies here - Click Here
and it appears to be downloadable as a PDF direct from Mel Bay here: Click Here
Another book, perhaps a bit elementary but useful, is Arnie Berle's "Chords and Progressions for Jazz and Popular Guitar". It's still pretty widely available, for example Click Here. This book starts from the very beginning and then lays out more and more complex ideas in a very organized way.
If you're really starting from scratch on jazz guitar, you might want to start with Arnie's book, but I really like Ed's book a lot - I have had it for 20 years, and I still find useful stuff in it.
Of course, if you really wanna get deep, go direct to the source - George van Eps "Harmonic Mechanisms for Guitar" - but this is not for the faint of heart.
There are lots of other books on jazz guitar harmony and chordal theory, but those are two that I've used myself. |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2008 11:30 am
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| The Mickey Baker book was how I learned to play! Not from the book, couldn't make heads or tails of it. But there were 144 chords for guitar on the back cover. I just started workin' through them. |
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Jussi Huhtakangas
From:
Helsinki, Finland
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Posted 30 Sep 2008 12:03 pm
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| For some real extended voicings, try to find some Johnny Smith arrangements; opens up a whole new world, especially when you tune that low E to D. Close voicings like a piano and steel, requires some serious stretches but what a lush sound! |
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