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Topic: How many Keyless 12 string players out there? |
Terry Wood
From:
Lebanon, MO
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Posted 24 Sep 2008 1:40 pm |
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Just curious how many of you are playig a 12 string keyless steel these days?
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Glyn Bone
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Halifax.Nova Scotia. Canada * R.I.P.
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Posted 24 Sep 2008 2:13 pm
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I would if`n I could afford one  
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 24 Sep 2008 4:44 pm
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here! 
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Ivan Funk
From:
Hamburg Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 24 Sep 2008 5:16 pm
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Bill Hatcher
From:
Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 24 Sep 2008 6:14 pm
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I bought an Excel 12 string keyless off the For Sale section the other day just to tinker with and see what it was like. It is a nice guitar, used to be U12 but now is extended E9 with 8/5. I will probably sell it after I mess around with it some. I really like the compactness of it and the weight.
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Larry Lorows
From:
Zephyrhills,Florida, USA
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Posted 24 Sep 2008 7:07 pm
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I have a keyless Williams U12 and would advise any one to buy one. It's as good as any I've ever owned, and I've had quite a few in the last 30 years. Larry
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Michael Johnstone
From:
Sylmar,Ca. USA
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Posted 24 Sep 2008 7:38 pm
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| I got an Excel Superb keyless U12 w/8+9. It's all the guitar I'll ever need. Fantastic in every way. |
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Ivan Posa
From:
Hamilton, New Zealand
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Posted 24 Sep 2008 8:16 pm
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| Anapeg 12 string Ext E9 5P & 6K. |
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Olli Haavisto
From:
Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 24 Sep 2008 11:54 pm
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Two keyless Williams U12s here.
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ed packard
From:
Show Low AZ
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Posted 25 Sep 2008 7:48 am
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Just a whole bunch of Sierra Session series 14 stringers, keyless/gearless...does that count
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John Roche
From:
England
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Posted 25 Sep 2008 11:25 am
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Sierra Session uni 12.... love it
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 25 Sep 2008 12:35 pm
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Paul Redmond
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 27 Sep 2008 2:38 am
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Since 1985...Jeff Newman threw me over the top. I have since been able to find 95% of the '6th stuff' I've been looking for on the A6th side of the E9th tuning and have opted for a 10-string setup with the KL's very strategically placed to accommodate just that. I have referred to it on the Forum at various times as the 'short Uni' tuning basically pioneered by Bill Goddard of Canada back in the 1980's. Am presently building a Whitney S-10 with 4 FP's and 7 KL's and an all-aluminum neck featuring a maple inlay with ebony fret markers for 'eye candy'.
But the main 'workhorse' is a S-12 Whitney E9/B6/A6/SS Uni and has been for 23 years.
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James Quackenbush
From:
Pomona, New York, USA
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Posted 27 Sep 2008 6:00 am
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| My Excel Superb 8+5 is keyless and so is my Kline 8+5 .......Lovem both !!...Jim |
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Gary McVay
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 27 Sep 2008 6:24 pm BMI Keyless
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Here's a picture of the BMI Keyless that Zane built for me in 1982. I was playing in Little Rock at the time. I still have the guitar and play it every day in my studio in Pigeon Forge, TN.
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James Quackenbush
From:
Pomona, New York, USA
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Posted 28 Sep 2008 2:48 am
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| WOW !!....An 82 BMI keyless ....That must have been rarer than hens teeth back in the day ....It has taken so long for the keyless technology to catch on , and is STILL not really widely accepted .... I'm wondering who actually developed the keyless technology and who put it out to the pedal steel marketplace ? ... Interesting stuff here ...Jim |
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Olli Haavisto
From:
Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 28 Sep 2008 3:16 am
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Was the Gene Fields designed Fender the first pedal steel with a keyless tuner ?
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Scott Howard
From:
Georgetown, TN, USA
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Posted 28 Sep 2008 3:18 am
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My MSA I converted
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Gary Cosden
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 28 Sep 2008 6:37 am
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| Me too. Sierra key less 12 converted from uni to extended E9. I currently lust after an Excel Superb but a Williams looks good as well. |
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James Quackenbush
From:
Pomona, New York, USA
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Posted 28 Sep 2008 7:05 am
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| I am STILL fond of the Sierra keyless steels that I have owned in the past .... ...Especially the 25 inch scale and the removable pickup system ....The machining is 2nd to none ... Jim |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 28 Sep 2008 9:25 am
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Although he does not post here, B.J. Cole plays a Kline 12 string keyless.
I tried out a Sierra with a keyless 25 inch scale and liked it a lot. If MSA would make a similar setup, I would retrofit my Millennium with one. (Hint to Reece and Kyle.)
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James Quackenbush
From:
Pomona, New York, USA
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Posted 28 Sep 2008 9:40 am
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Mike ,
What was it you liked about the Sierra that you would like on your MSA ? ...Thanks, Jim |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 28 Sep 2008 9:53 am
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Mike ,
What was it you liked about the Sierra that you would like on your MSA ? ...Thanks, Jim |
Jim, I liked the 25 inch scale. It made it easier to intonate correctly as you sent up the neck.
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James Quackenbush
From:
Pomona, New York, USA
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Posted 28 Sep 2008 10:10 am
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Mike ,
Thanks for the reply ...The biggest thing I notice on the longer scales is that you have more sustain on a keyless setup, and the lower strings are not mush ....They are more pronounced and tighter with more punch to them ....I really never looked into the intonation ....Just another benefit !!....Thanks, Jim |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 28 Sep 2008 11:30 am
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| James Quackenbush wrote: |
Mike ,
Thanks for the reply ...The biggest thing I notice on the longer scales is that you have more sustain on a keyless setup, and the lower strings are not mush ....They are more pronounced and tighter with more punch to them ....I really never looked into the intonation ....Just another benefit !!....Thanks, Jim |
Jim, the lower strings on my Millennium have that punch. There is a very pronounced difference in the way they sound on the Milly and the way they sound on my other 2 guitars.
Maybe a 25 inch gearless neck would improve that. Unless MSA decides to offer such a neck (I'm told at present they have no plans to do so) we'll never know.
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