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Topic: Spade Cooley on the Western Swing on 78 blog |
Brad Bechtel
From: San Francisco, CA
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Twayn Williams
From: Portland, OR
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Posted 17 Sep 2008 2:22 pm
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Cool, thanks for the link! _________________ Primitive Utility Steel |
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Andy Volk
From: Boston, MA
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Posted 17 Sep 2008 3:05 pm
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Fabulous site! Thanks, Brad. However, it doesn't sound like Joaquin on the steel to me on the Cooley LP. It doesn't seem to have have that Murph "je nais ce qua". 'Bet it was someone else since Joaquin had probably split the band for the Plainsmen by that time. |
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Doug Freeman
From: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted 17 Sep 2008 3:27 pm
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Andy Volk wrote: |
However, it doesn't sound like Joaquin on the steel to me on the Cooley LP. |
Really? Wow, well I'd settle for the "je nais ce qua" of his understudy any day. I love hearing Spade when I haven't listened to any western swing for a while. That music, with that instrumentation, is so sweet yet audacious all at once. Jumps out of the speakers. Thanks!
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Russ Blake
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 17 Sep 2008 11:15 pm
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I'm pretty darn sure that's Joaquin. I know because I can't stop smiling! |
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Andy Volk
From: Boston, MA
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Posted 18 Sep 2008 2:10 am
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Maybe it is. What do I know? |
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c c johnson
From: killeen,tx usa * R.I.P.
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Posted 18 Sep 2008 2:41 am
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I take exception to that part of the blog that states that Spade forced his daughter to watch as he killed her mother. I was subbing in Spades bands and others at the time and the band members massaged this quite well. She testified that she walked in as Spade finished killing her mother. Infact if it had not been for her testimony the concensus is that Spade may have not been convicted. Noel Boggs told me alot of things about the trial and his visits to Spade in prison and there are alot of things that do not seem kosher about the trial etc. cc |
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Jussi Huhtakangas
From: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted 18 Sep 2008 5:40 am
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It's Murph on that album, it was recorded in the mid 50's when he rejoined Spade. |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 18 Sep 2008 9:02 am
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Man, that stuff is Gooooooooood !
what blows me away, considering i'm (like so many) an Emmons fan, is that when i hear Joaquin's playin' i can hear just how much he influenced Buddy when he was a young man
Thanx Brad ![Winking](images/smiles/icon_winking.gif) |
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Mike Neer
From: NJ
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Posted 18 Sep 2008 9:51 am
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One of my favorites. His playing is amazing on this record. _________________ Links to streaming music, websites, YouTube: Links |
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Roger Shackelton
From: MINNESOTA (deceased)
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Posted 18 Sep 2008 11:38 am Ole Rasmussen
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HELLO WESTERN SWINGSTERS
HAS ANYONE HEARD OLE RASMUSSEN PLAYING "FLYING HOME"?
MUST BE LATE 40s OR EARLY 50s.
SORRY FOR THE CAPS, NOT! ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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Andy Volk
From: Boston, MA
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Posted 18 Sep 2008 12:51 pm
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Doh! I shoulda listened to more than just two cuts. Yearning couldn't be anyone BUT Joaquin! |
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David Cook
From: Florida, USA
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Posted 18 Sep 2008 5:50 pm
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Hi, Thanks so much for the heads up. GREAT steel guitar!!!! |
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Kevin Brown
From: England
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Posted 19 Sep 2008 12:51 am
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Fantastic tracks for us lappers to be inspired by, however theres is a niggling doubt for me about the player, first time through its Murphey, but the more I listen I hear non murphey licks and phrasing, but whoever it is its damn fine playing, wish someone could pick that up and fly the flag these days, its the bluesy feel that floors me, many thanks for the post |
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Mitch Drumm
From: Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 19 Sep 2008 2:40 am
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The 8 songs on that LP were all recorded in Hollywood on either September 2 or 20, 1954, with Joaquin.
Boggs and Murphey both had at least two stints with the Cooley band.
Noel made some wonderful recordings with Spade on Decca a couple of years before these recordings were made. Songs like Horse Hair Boogie, Carmen's Boogie, Swingin' The Devil's Dream, and One Sweet Letter From You. Most of them with Jimmy Wyble on guitar.
I like them every bit as much as the stuff with Joaquin. Boggs didn't sound much like Murphey in the 1940s, but the later material with Spade can almost fool you for a while, and then you hear a Noel trademark that gives him away.
I think all of Spade's Decca recordings are on CD.
Here is a rather long article on Spade's trial and police investigation:
http://tinyurl.com/zodnj |
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Kevin Brown
From: England
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Posted 19 Sep 2008 5:03 am
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Thanks, Mitch, thats that sorted then, to have heard that live must have been awesome, specially with a big band, just great great stuff |
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Mark Durante
From: St. Pete Beach FL
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Posted 19 Sep 2008 5:31 pm
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Fantastic stuff, thanks Brad. Lots of great Joaquin. That last one "Sail On" sure sounds like Boggs though. |
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Billy Tonnesen
From: R.I.P., Buena Park, California
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Posted 19 Sep 2008 6:12 pm
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I was part of the last half of the fourties and early fifties in the So. Calif. Western Swing era. I saw Joaquin at the Riverside Rancho with Spade Cooley and Tex Williams. I was a personal friend of Noel Boggs. To my ear they never did play alike. Joaquin was more mellow and had the Hawaiian influence in his playing and was awsome in his single string playing which could be traced back to Sol Hoopi. Noel's playing had influences of the Big Pop band phrasing using big block chords. His tone was more crisp and any single string work was completely differen't from Joaquin's. It never was hard for me to identify their playing when listening to records. |
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Russ Blake
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 20 Sep 2008 10:33 am Question for Billy Tonnesen
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Hey Billy,
Are you on the Cornhusker's version of Flying Home that is mentioned above? I sure love the sound you guys got in that band! Never heard that one, though. |
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Billy Tonnesen
From: R.I.P., Buena Park, California
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Posted 22 Sep 2008 2:18 pm To: Russ Blake
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This probably isn't the place to discuss my career, but yes that was myself and Earl Finley on Lead Guitar on our attempt of playing the classic "Flying Home". I think it was about 1946 or 1947 and was cut on the "Crystal Label" a local Los Angeles independent label. It was all pretty primitive recording technology. I was just starting to get my "sea legs" on playing Western Swing Steel. Thanks for asking. |
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Russ Blake
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 22 Sep 2008 3:12 pm
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You're right, Billy, I probably should have started a new thread. Thanks for the reply and for all the great music through the years. |
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Ron Whitfield
From: Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 22 Sep 2008 5:25 pm Right place, right time
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Billy's contribution's in various threads are some of what helps make this such a fine forum, and these are exactly the places to discuss whatever comes to mind.
Do tell! |
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Mark Durante
From: St. Pete Beach FL
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Posted 22 Sep 2008 6:06 pm
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Billy,
We want to hear anything you got to say, anytime.
Thanks |
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