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Charlie Tryon
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Posted 5 Sep 2008 6:21 am |
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Well I have been home for almost a week and finally got a chance to sit down and play it. This is the same guitar that a few people played at St. Louis. Well what a great guitar this is. It has great tone and grat playability as well. The Jacksons have improved on the super pro line and now have another great guitar added to thier line of guitars. I have a couple of pic's that Dawn sent to me before I got the guitar so I will post them until I have time to get some more to put up as I know you will want some underside shots. I just have to say WELL DONE David Harry and Dawn.
Charlie
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Jeff Bradshaw
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Leslieville, Alberta - Canada
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Posted 5 Sep 2008 8:47 pm
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| It is Beautiful!!! ..jeff |
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Marc Jenkins
From:
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 8 Sep 2008 8:07 am
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| Charlie, that certainly is a beautiful steel. How does the Pro IV compare to Jackson's other lines? |
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Charlie Tryon
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Glovertown Newfoundland, Canada
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Posted 9 Sep 2008 5:16 am
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Well compares in what way? It is an improved changer over the super pro. It plays very smooth as does all of the Jacksons. It has great tone and sustain. It is a different tone to the other Jackson guitars but it is great tone IMHO. All the guitars I have and have had from Jackson have been great. This one is a keeper for me along with my Commemerative. Not only are the guitars great but the service is great as well. Nicer people than the Jacksons hard to find.
Charlie
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Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
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Posted 9 Sep 2008 6:29 am
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This is one great guitar. I played it in St. Louis and can say that the Jacksons really nailed it on this one. All around, about the best a steel guitar can be.
Congrats, Charlie....what a stable you now have. The other Pro IV, blondie, has been haunting me ever since the convention.
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richard burton
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Britain
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Posted 9 Sep 2008 12:51 pm
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Is it a low budget instrument?
The machine heads have no covers, hence the question. |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 9 Sep 2008 2:17 pm
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I agree Richard, it's difficult to get past those cheap looking, dust catching, uncovered machine heads. From an aesthetic pov, very unsatisfying to me, at least. 
Too bad - the rest of the guitar is beautiful. |
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Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
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Posted 9 Sep 2008 2:25 pm
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I think they look cool, actually. They have a vintage vibe. They don't look cheap to me at all.
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Marc Jenkins
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Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 9 Sep 2008 3:32 pm
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| I'm with Chris on this one. Waverly's, for example, are some of the best tuners you'll find, used on Collings and other high-end guitars. These are probably the Grover copies? |
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Jeff Bradshaw
From:
Leslieville, Alberta - Canada
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Posted 9 Sep 2008 9:34 pm
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| The waverly's machine tuners pictured on this guitar may just be the best tuners available today....All the best. ..jeff bradshaw |
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Charlie Tryon
From:
Glovertown Newfoundland, Canada
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Posted 10 Sep 2008 4:38 am
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Tony you are correct NOT CHEAP just for the record these tuning keys work so well my commemorative guitar is at Jackson as we speak for an upgrade to these new keys they are one of the best feeling keys I have had on any guitar. Cheap is a relative term anyway IMHO. Just to keep it all straight there is nothing about a Jackson guitar that is cheap. David would not have it any other way. They are always looking to improve when ever and where ever they can to give you a quality instrument for a fair price. I think they have hit a home run with this one.
Charlie
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 10 Sep 2008 7:51 am
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Only my opinion, guys. I'm sure if I had remarked about how beautiful and functional they were, I would have encountered as many dissenting opinions about that.  |
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Scott Swartz
From:
St. Louis, MO
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Posted 10 Sep 2008 8:47 am
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Has Jackson done tonal tests on these tuners versus the other typically used Sperzel, etc?
Have not seen much discussion about tonal impacts of different tuners, but I would think there must be some difference.
For the record, I don't mind the exposed look, enclosed is fine also
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 10 Sep 2008 11:06 am
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| Exposed tuners on a pedal steel look bloody awful, in my opinion |
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 10 Sep 2008 1:42 pm
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I think they look great......in an "old school" way.
They definitely look better than Klusons....and I don't even mind the way those look. |
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Skip Edwards
From:
LA,CA
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Posted 10 Sep 2008 2:11 pm
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What's the difference between this gtr and the Shot Jackson gtr?
From what I can tell from the pic, the end plate by the keyhead doesn't seem to have the tuning slot for the lowers that other Jackson's have. Does this gtr not have the Bouncing Betty tuners?
Very nice, btw. |
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Bent Romnes
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London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 10 Sep 2008 3:39 pm
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Obviously the open gears tuners is strictly a matter of taste. I am with Richard on this one. I think the look cheapens an otherwise beautiful-looking steel.
There is no doubt that the tuners are of high quality and not cheap. Jackson wouldn't put second rate parts on their product. It is just that they look cheap to some, including me.
Is this the Jackson guitar that is supposed to be a touch of the old ShoBud? If so, they have succeeded with the choice of tuners. I have some old tuners like that laying in a cookie tin. I believe they came off of a 1970 ShoBud. Never did use them. Almost threw them away. They looked so dated and well, cheap. |
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Tom Higgins
From:
New Jersey, USA
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Posted 10 Sep 2008 4:33 pm tuners
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| As long as we`re voting,here`s another thumbs up for the open tuners. |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 11 Sep 2008 7:06 am
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I only opined that they looked cheap. I did not say they were cheap.  |
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John Groover McDuffie
From:
LA California, USA
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Posted 11 Sep 2008 9:07 am
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According to the Jackson website those are Grover keys, not Waverlys. (I would have been surprised if Jackson was using $250 - $300 worth of tuners on their guitars.)
FWIW it's not fair to call the Grovers copies of the Waverlys, since cosmetically they are re-issues of the old Grover Sta-Tite machines. It would be more accurate to call the Waverlys copies of the old Grovers, albeit very high quality copies. |
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Johnne Lee Ables
From:
Minnesota, USA
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Posted 11 Sep 2008 9:15 am Beautiful instrument....
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This PSG has a very "vintage" or "classic" vibe, IMHO. It could easily be a beautiful restoration of a 40 old steel. I think the open tuners suit it well. Even, though I prefer the look of a keyless system.
Very classy!
Johnne Lee
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T. C. Furlong
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Lake County, Illinois, USA
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Posted 12 Sep 2008 4:23 pm
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I played Charlie's guitar in the Jackson Room at the ISGC quite a bit. When you are playing the guitar, you can't really see the open gears.
I'll tell you one thing...David Jackson takes everything into consideration when designing and building a steel guitar. I am sure the use of the lower mass tuners impacts the sound of the guitar. And I'll venture a guess that it's better. Years ago, I had two identical steels the only difference being Sperzels on one and Klusons on the other. They sounded remarkably different.
BTW...that Jackson Pro IV of Charlie's is a GREAT guitar. The main difference between it and a Shot Jackson Commemorative model is the changer and the fact that the SJC raises strings at the bridge and lowers strings at the keyhead. The Pro IV is raising and lowering at the bridge changer.
TC |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 13 Sep 2008 2:34 am
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i've heard quite a bit of good on these Jackson steels
wish i could try one & see & hear for myself
Congratulations Charlie, she looks mighty good |
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Charlie Tryon
From:
Glovertown Newfoundland, Canada
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Posted 13 Sep 2008 8:51 am
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Thanks for that T.C. and by the way I must say you sounded mighty fine on that guitar as well. I'am a little upset with both you and Rusty as you did not leave any of the good licks on the guitar for me.
Charlie
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