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Topic: Keyless Push/Pull |
James Sission
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Sugar Land,Texas USA
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Posted 6 Sep 2008 11:02 am |
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Thought some of you guys might enjoy seeing this work of art.
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Ron !
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Posted 6 Sep 2008 11:53 am
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| Who build this steel guitar James? |
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James Sission
From:
Sugar Land,Texas USA
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Posted 6 Sep 2008 11:58 am
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| This guitar was built by Bobby Bowman. |
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Danny Bates
From:
Fresno, CA. USA
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Posted 6 Sep 2008 1:44 pm
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Beautiful Guitar James! 
I don't think I've ever seen a guitar that looks as sturdy as this. The dual changers are a great design.
I know it sounds as good as it looks. A true work of art. Congratulations.  |
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Ron !
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Posted 6 Sep 2008 2:46 pm
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| Is this the famous "B" guitar? |
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James Sission
From:
Sugar Land,Texas USA
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Posted 7 Sep 2008 2:41 am
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| I am not sure what that means. Bob just finished building this guitar friday night. I went over and watched him finish it. I think there are only 2 of these guitars...James |
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 7 Sep 2008 7:11 am
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| I'd love to see more close-up photos of that undercarriage..........Why the two changers?.........Is one side a pull-release (for raises) and the other side a push-release (for lowers)? |
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Ron !
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Posted 7 Sep 2008 7:26 am
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Some time ago........(probably over 10 years)I talked to him and almost ordered me one back then.He told me that he build this with a friend I believe.He called it the "B" guitar back then.
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J D Sauser
From:
Wellington, Florida
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Posted 7 Sep 2008 7:41 am
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The "B"-Guitar was Bobby's push-pull guitar brand... it had a standard key head and a raise & lower changer on the right. It think it was around the mid to late 90's into the new millennium.
Right around 2000 to 2001 there was some talk about the advantage of building a guitar which would raise on one side and lower and tune on the opposite on here on this very Forum. The idea, if I remember well, was to take the push-pull feature of having changer fingers rest only and directly on the body (open-raised and/or lowered) a little further.
One such guitar was presented during the TSGA convention in either 2000 or 2001. The one posted above looks similar to that one in concept.
... J-D. |
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James Sission
From:
Sugar Land,Texas USA
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Posted 7 Sep 2008 8:32 am
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| Well, what Bobby and I talked about was that this is the only SD-10 he made. He also made a D-10, which his friend has, and there is other D-10 wating to be built in his shop.(with all the guitars he had there for service, I doubt that will be any time soon) The guitar I have has a cabinet made by Mark Giles. Bob told me that he had taken one of the guitars to a show a few years back and it went over pretty well but his friend kind of lost interest in the project. I took a guitar to Bob for repairs and mentioned to him that I wanted to go back to an SD-10. I wanted a P/P but I can not play them because the pedals are to short. As result of that conversation, this guitar was brought out of hiding and completed with 4X5. The frist pedal is 1/2 the franklin pedal as it lowers the 5 string. To get the whole franklin pedal, I can hit the first pedal and move the RKL and I have the full franklin pedal. The vertical is a B lower and the rest is standard Emmons. This is by far the best sounding guitar I have owned thus far. This is probably wasted on me with my limited bar room playing and playing at the BBQ cook-off each year. I'm sure a more accomplished player could really get some killer tone out of this. I am amazed how good it sounds. Thank you for the compliments Danny, I was in a rush and failed to acknowledge your post earlier..Thanks...James |
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Brandon Ordoyne
From:
Needville,Texas USA
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Posted 7 Sep 2008 7:09 pm
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Sweet lookin' steel James! 
I am gunna have to come over and try her out sometime!
Take Care!
Brandon
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James Sission
From:
Sugar Land,Texas USA
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Posted 8 Sep 2008 3:13 am
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Tony, I somehow missed your post. I am sorry about that. Yes, this is a Push/Pull and that's the reason for 2 changers. I can try to take better pictures later today when I get home.
Brandon, Your always welcome to drop by after work, just give me a call and make sure I am home. You might be able to play this guitar, it's 1 7/8 inch high. Good to hear from you...Email and let me know how the band thing is going.....James |
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Ernie Pollock
From:
Mt Savage, Md USA
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Posted 8 Sep 2008 10:05 am Another Keyless
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Heres a beauty built by my friend Reg Diller of Greencastle Pa, he has built several steels, I played one of his keyless S-12's for quite a spell, he is a real craftsman who is not afraid to try something new & different. This one raises on one end, lowers on the other.
Ernie Pollock
http://www.hereintown.net/~shobud75/stock.htm |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Paul Redmond
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 8 Sep 2008 10:54 pm
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Now that would bring a tear of joy to a glass eye!!! Fine work for sure!!!
PRR |
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 9 Sep 2008 6:02 am
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| more undercarriage pix please............. |
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James Sission
From:
Sugar Land,Texas USA
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Posted 9 Sep 2008 6:10 am
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| I am sorry Tony...I will make an effort to post those today after 4 when I get home. I just need to take a few and the I will post them for you...James |
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 9 Sep 2008 8:41 am
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| James...........That's great. I can hardly wait. |
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James Sission
From:
Sugar Land,Texas USA
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Posted 9 Sep 2008 2:22 pm
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Tony, here are some more pictures from under the hood. I watched Bobby polish a lot of the stuff and I watched him make and install a lot of it as well. The guy is a true master and treated my guitar like he was building it for himself...Thank you....James
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 9 Sep 2008 2:53 pm
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| This is the first time I've ever seen gears on a pedal steel. |
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Paul Redmond
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 9 Sep 2008 8:49 pm
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b0b - I first used reversing gears on the Whitney in April of 1984.
PRR |
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 9 Sep 2008 10:07 pm
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James thx!!!!!!.........what a cool guitar
If I'm looking at this guitar correctly: it looks like the raises are tuned with a pull-release changer on the "key(less)head" side of the guitar (the side nearest the pedals).....and the lowers are tuned by a push-release changer on the volume pedal side of the guitar.
If that's the case, then both changers combine to form a push-pull system that doesn't require any slack.
Is that correct?
Plus, it's multiple raise and lower!
.....I hate to bug you, but if you get a chance could you post some pix showing the changer access of both endplates |
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James Sission
From:
Sugar Land,Texas USA
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Posted 10 Sep 2008 3:12 am
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| Tony, that is correct, the pulls raise and the pushes lower. Also, it has tuneable splits. Your not bugging me at all, but could you explain what "changer access" means? Do you mean you want pictures of the end plates where the tuners are? I can do that later today when I get home if you want them.....James |
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J D Sauser
From:
Wellington, Florida
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Posted 10 Sep 2008 5:05 am
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| b0b wrote: |
| This is the first time I've ever seen gears on a pedal steel. |
Cougar PSG's had gears too for the reverse levers... at least the ones I've seen.
Cougar, if my memory serves me well, used nylon gears which could be expected to run quite and require less or no lubing.
... J-D. |
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 10 Sep 2008 6:13 am
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| James Sission wrote: |
| Do you mean you want pictures of the end plates where the tuners are? .....James |
James, that's correct.....Thx |
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