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Topic: C6th neck 4th pedal? |
George McLellan
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Duluth, MN USA
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Posted 14 Aug 2008 8:59 am |
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Would someone give me an example of what pedal 4 would be used for? I still can't find a use for that pedal. I do use pedals 5 - 8. (to avoid any confusion, pedals 1, 2 and 3 are E9th neck)
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Greg Cutshaw
From:
Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 14 Aug 2008 11:00 am
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I love this pedal! It's used in a lot of my C6 songs. Look at the 8th tab down on this page for a real cool sound:
Tab Page 4
I use it to replicate E9th chromatic sounds a lot. The one half tone interval created between strings 4 and 3 can be used similarly to the same interval created on E9th strings 1 and 5 with the 2nd string lowered a half tone and using the C6th 4th pedal in place of the E9th first pedal.
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George McLellan
From:
Duluth, MN USA
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Posted 14 Aug 2008 11:50 am Thank you
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Thank you Greg.
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Ron Randall
From:
Dallas, Texas, USA
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Posted 14 Aug 2008 4:45 pm
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On some D10's (C6 neck) and Uni's, pedal 4 is used to raise the 6th intervals one whole tone ( A's up to B's) Gives a beautiful Cmaj7 in the open position, and of course wherever you put your bar.
Handy position being next to the much used 5 and 6 pedals.
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Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
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Posted 14 Aug 2008 6:16 pm
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I just tune it to raise a half-step for a 7th in the open position.
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Ian Kerr
From:
Queensland, Australia
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Posted 14 Aug 2008 11:12 pm
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It can be used to change the harmony of chords.Example: C6 neck , fret 5 home position for F, Dm, G7[with pedal 5].Pressing pedal 4 down you get
A Fmaj7 voicing F A C E on strings 7,6,5,4.
Note you could have gotten E on string 4 by
using pedal 7
B Dm voicing of C E F A on strings 5,4,3,2.
C G7 voicing [and using pedal 5] of B E F A
on strings 5,4,3,2.
For C maj7 go to fret 7 and play strings 6,5,4,3.
Now you have the old familiar 2m,5, 1 progression
Dm,G7, Cmaj7 on frets 5 and 7 somewhat jazzed up
with these piano style voicings. |
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 15 Aug 2008 9:55 am
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It might be just a lucky break for me that it actually works on my particular axe  , but I put that change on a KL with a very positive (and tunable) half stop that raises both A's to Bb, then to B.
I LOVE having it that way, especially since I can now free up that floor pedal for raising the middle C (string 7) to a D. Other guys might find a better use for it, but for my interests it works great!
George, I use the A to B pull to make an Amin9 ALOT!  |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 15 Aug 2008 10:48 am
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| Rick Schmidt wrote: |
I put that change on a KL with a very positive (and tunable) half stop that raises both A's to Bb, then to B.
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Me too, but only one string, the higher A .020". |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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robert kramer
From:
Nashville TN
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Posted 15 Aug 2008 4:55 pm
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A 7#9 chord can be played on stings 8,6,5 with the 4th and 5th pedals. Here's an easy move from a F6 - C7#9 - F6. With no pedals play strings 8,6,5. While they are ringing hit the 4th string. Then push pedals 4 and 5 and play stings 7,5,4 (C7#9) While they are ringing hit string 5. Then return to the I chord by hitting 8,6,5 no pedals.
I use the 4th pedal all the time especially on I-VI-II-V progressions. I shortened the pedal rod on 4 so the pedal is sitting higher than the 5th pedal. |
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 16 Aug 2008 2:07 pm
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My #4-pedal is just the opposite of pedal #6 in that it Lowers #2 (½-tone) to Eb and Raises #6 (½-tone) to F plus it also Raises #10 (1-tone) to D–>Optional. I also have a LKL that Raises #4 (½-tone) to Bb and Lowers #9 (1-tone) to Eb and a LKR that Lowers #4 & #8 (½-tone) to Ab. Also, RKL Lowers #3 (½-tone) to B and a RKR that Raises #3 & #7 (½-tone) to C#. My C6 set-up is similar to Buck Reid's Copedent.
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 16 Aug 2008 3:27 pm
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| My 4th is the same as John's (no raise on string 10). Opposite of P6. I also have the 4th string raise to Bb/B on my LKR. I used to have both A's to Bb on the knee lever and had eliminated the A to B changes many, many years ago. I just recently changed the lever to only raise the 4th and put the half stop on it. I've never used the B or Bb on the 8th string, so I didn't put the changes on that string. |
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