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Topic: several Strobo-flips being sold?? |
Terry Sneed
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Posted 6 Aug 2008 2:36 pm |
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I've noticed several Peterson Strobo-flip tuners being sold. Just curious if people are having problems with em, or do they just not like em?
And, what about the claim that the Peterson tuners are 30 times more accurate than regular electronic tuners. That's really hard to beleive. Just a sales pitch?
I bought mine from Musician's Friend "scratch and dent" sale for $145. Had it over a year, and really like the tuner. But 30 times more accurate? 
Terry |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 6 Aug 2008 2:51 pm
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I have mine and still going strong, no problems.
The accuracy published is .01 cent (1/1000 semitone).
The accuracy for the popular TU12 and TU12H is plus or minus 1 cent, for example. |
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Don Sulesky
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Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH
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Posted 6 Aug 2008 3:02 pm
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I have had mine since they 1st came out.
In fact I was on a 3 month waiting list with M/F when they announced it would be coming.
I love mine and wouldn't part with it.
My two steels have never sounded so in tune since I've been using it.
No matter what the unit or steel is you can't please everyone.
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Darrell Grigsby
From:
Jonesburg, Missouri
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Posted 6 Aug 2008 3:02 pm Stroboflip
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I've had mine for about a year.
It is more accurate than my Emmons staying in tune?
Only problem is: I'd like to leave it plugged in,
but, there is much noise doing this.
The convenience of leaving it attached to the
guitar leg is paramont. |
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Don Sulesky
From:
Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH
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Posted 6 Aug 2008 3:06 pm
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Darrell
If you have two outputs on your pedal such as the Hilton does.
Dedicate one output to the tuner and the other to your amp.
That's what I do.
Don |
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Marlin Gengenbach
From:
New Mexico, USA
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Posted 6 Aug 2008 4:17 pm tuners
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| I have had the StroboFlip since it's inception (a VSII prior to this one) and it works great for me. Like Don, I keep mine pugged into the second jack on the Hilton pedal. Best thing since 'sliced bread' as they used to say. |
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Brian Kurlychek
From:
Maine, USA
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Posted 6 Aug 2008 4:53 pm
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I just got mine, and I like it, but I just need to get more familiar with it.
And what was the "best thing" before sliced bread? No one seems to be able to answer that one?
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Terry Sneed
From:
Arkansas,
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Posted 6 Aug 2008 7:16 pm stroboflip
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I ain't sure where I saw the Peterson tuners were 30 times more accurate, but I think I did. 
Do ya'll use the Jeff Newman tunings, if so which one for E9?
And which Dobro tuning do you dobro players use? The pure 3rds, or the half tempered 3rds?
The one thing I'm most impressed with, concerning the Strobo-flip is the looong life of the batteries.
I think I've put batteries in once, since I've had mine.
Terry
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1997 emmons legrande lll 8&5/ Nashville 112 with Fox chip mod LTD 400 / American Tele / John Jorgerson Takamine/ W/S Rob Ickes model dobro/
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Don Sulesky
From:
Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH
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Posted 7 Aug 2008 3:15 am
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Brian
I've broken down the operation into simple terms on my web site.
http://web.tampabay.rr.com/dsulesky/E9&C6tunings.htm
I use the 440 settings for my ShoBud and Emmons
I have mine preset to open on users S1 for E9th and S2 for C6th.
My instructions will guide you thru that.
Good luck.
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Eric Philippsen
From:
Central Florida USA
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Posted 7 Aug 2008 5:02 am
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| I noticed the suggestion to run one volume pedal output to the amp and the other to the tuner. But it's been my experience (and I haven't tried it again for many years) that doing so essentially splits the guitar's output signal. So, instead of 100% of the signal going to your amp you would have much less if using both pedal outputs at once. Speaking for myself, I shy away as much as possible from degrading my guitar's after-the-volume-pedal output strength. Comments? Your experience? |
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Don Sulesky
From:
Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH
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Posted 7 Aug 2008 6:34 am
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Eric
The Hilton has a Y output connection.
I have noticed NO drop in my signal to my Nashville 112.
Don |
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Stephen Silver
From:
Asheville, NC
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Posted 7 Aug 2008 7:07 am
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Several rack system users are switching from the strobo flip to the newer Peterson rack mount unit, so that may account for some of the selling off.
SS |
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Paddy Long
From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 7 Aug 2008 1:02 pm
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| Stephen your right mate, I have a stroborack now but I still kept the stroboflip - it's still very handy to use when I don't have my rack, like when I do fly dates etc ...! |
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Lynn Oliver
From:
Redmond, Washington USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 7 Aug 2008 1:20 pm Re: several Strobo-flips being sold??
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| Terry Sneed wrote: |
| ...And, what about the claim that the Peterson tuners are 30 times more accurate than regular electronic tuners. That's really hard to beleive. Just a sales pitch?... |
A typical digital tuner uses an "in pitch" window of about 3 cents. This is to account for the change in pitch as a string decays--without the tuner blinking in and out of pitch, which annoys users. If you compare that 3 cent window with the 0.1 cent claimed accuracy of the Peterson tuners you get the 30X.
A couple of years ago I did some testing on the tuners I had laying around, using a signal generator and recording the readings on the tuners. The Peterson, as claimed, was accurate to 0.1 cent or better. The in pitch window for a digital tuner that claimed 1 cent accuracy was actually 8 cents (-5 to +3, if I recall the data correctly). The others that I tested all fell pretty closely into the 3 cent window. |
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Don Sulesky
From:
Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH
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Posted 7 Aug 2008 1:33 pm
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I doubled checked my manual and it does say that the accuracy of the Strobo Flip is 1/10 of one cent or 1/1000 of a semitone as Jack has stated above.
The human ear is incapable of hearing anything close to that.
So I'd say it's better than 30 times more accurate than a regular tuner.
Don |
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Terry Sneed
From:
Arkansas,
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Posted 7 Aug 2008 6:21 pm tuner
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Well, I reckon the 30 times more accurate ain't no sales pitch after all. anyway, I like my strobo. Good fast tuning for my Steel, my Tele, and my Dobro.
It's a keeper for sure. 
Terry
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1997 emmons legrande lll 8&5/ Nashville 112 with Fox chip mod LTD 400 / American Tele / John Jorgerson Takamine/ W/S Rob Ickes model dobro/
"May God Bless America Again" |
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Mike Fried
From:
Nashville, TN, USA
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Posted 8 Aug 2008 7:56 am
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Eric, the Hilton pedal's output is from a buffer preamp and is low-impedance, so there is essentially no signal drop when splitting its output to two destinations.
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Casey Lowmiller
From:
Kansas
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Posted 9 Aug 2008 4:52 pm
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I won't be selling mine anytime soon!!! I LOVE IT!!!
Casey
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Terry Sneed
From:
Arkansas,
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Posted 9 Aug 2008 7:25 pm Strobo
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Do ya'll use the Jeff Newman tunings, if so which one for E9? Or do ya'll use a different tuning?
And which Dobro tuning do you dobro players use? The pure 3rds, or the half tempered 3rds? Or maybe a different tuning?
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Lynn Oliver
From:
Redmond, Washington USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 9 Aug 2008 8:05 pm
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| I use the half-tempered setting for dobro. |
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Terry Sneed
From:
Arkansas,
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Posted 10 Aug 2008 7:09 pm tuning
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Thank ya Lynn, very much appreciated.
I think I'll stick with the se9 Jeff Newman tuning for my Mullen RP. Sounds good to my ears
Then again, I use to tune to straight up 440, and it sounded good, so who knows. 
Terry |
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Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
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Posted 11 Aug 2008 7:24 am Re: Stroboflip
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I've had mine for about a year.
It is more accurate than my Emmons staying in tune?
Only problem is: I'd like to leave it plugged in,
but, there is much noise doing this.
The convenience of leaving it attached to the
guitar leg is paramont. |
If you are attending St. Louis this year, bring your Stroboflip to the Peterson booth. They will remove a chip from the unit, which will alleviate the noise problem. I had distortion when running my Stroboflip in line. So I brought it to Dallas and had the friendly lady at the Peterson booth open it up, pick a chip out with pliers, and hand it back to me fixed.
I trust you can also mail it back to the factory for this simple operation.
My Stroboflip is an indispensible part of my gear setup now. I use the Newman settings for my Professional and they work fine. I will get around to programming the exact settings in there soon.
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Terry Sneed
From:
Arkansas,
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Posted 11 Aug 2008 6:14 pm stroboflip
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Question please! I went to the peterson website last night, and one of the reps was tellin a new steel player how to go about tuning his steel. He told him to tune the open strings, then to tune the pedals and knees with the nylon tuners at the changer. Then he told him to fine tune it, by mashing down pedals A and B and tuning at the keyhead. Does everbody do this, or is this just the Peterson's Reps idea? 
Terry |
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 11 Aug 2008 6:41 pm
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| That is simply the same as tuning to the reference with the pedals down. Some people do it that way. Most probably tune to the reference with the pedals up. If you have very little cabinet drop, it doesn't make much difference which way you do it. If you have noticeable cabinet drop (by ear), whichever way you do it, you will be off by the amount of cabinet drop the other way. I prefer to split the difference, so that I'm as close to the reference as I can get either way. |
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Terry Sneed
From:
Arkansas,
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Posted 11 Aug 2008 7:25 pm tuning pedals down
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Thanks David. I emailed Mike Mantey at Mullen guitars a few months ago, and asked him if I should tune with my pedals in the down position. Mike told me I didn't need to tune with my pedals down on my Mullen, so I hadn't been tuning that way. Evidently the Mullen guitars have very little cabinet drop.
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