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Topic: Input for Wikipedia reso/steel/slide articles? |
Matthew Boris
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Posted 26 Apr 2008 11:39 pm |
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Greetings,
Wikipedia has some good material about steel/reso/slide guitar and kin, but there's always room for improvement.
I've added the following articles to Wiki, and would appreciate any input folks could provide. You don't need to be signed up for Wiki to add info, it's a completely open resource. Just hit "Edit" on the tabs at the top of the screen.
What is needed:
1) Information about any of the following subjects. Ideally, info should be referenced to a published source with footnotes added. If you happen to have a magazine or book that states info, you can summarize the concept and add a footnote to give proper credit to the source. If you don't know how to do footnotes in Wiki, you can just put it in partentheses next to the fact, and I can program it as a footnote later. Here are articles I'm building:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del_Vecchio_%28guitar_maker%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beltona_Resonator_Instruments
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_McGill
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonator_ukulele
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lap_steel_ukulele
2) Your pictures of reso instruments (not pics which are the property of anyone else). You must be signed up for Wiki to upload pics. If you'd rather not join Wiki, you can send/post me pics along with a note of permission, and I can upload them.
3) Mention of other encyclopedic (not how-to) articles which Wiki is lacking.
Thanks for any support in providing Steel/reso/slide info to the wider world! |
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basilh
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Posted 27 Apr 2008 7:21 pm
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| Wikipedia has some good material about steel/reso/slide guitar and kin, but there's always room for improvement. |
You said it Matthew..
Lap Steel Ukulele ?
Table Steel Guitar..
On What planet are those terminologies used ?
Where on Earth did these terminologies come from ?
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is a type of and method of playing the ukulele
There are three main types of lap steel ukulele:
* Lap slide ukuleles, simply a ukulele with high action played with a slide
* Resonator ukuleles, particularly those with square necks.
* Electric lap steel ukuleles, generally solid-body instruments. |
Lap Steel Guitar ..
Console Steel guitar ...
Pedal Steel Guitar ..
Yes, But the historical references in the articles are WAY off.. Especially those to the origin of the Electric Hawaiian Guitar, as to when and whom.
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| The lap steel probably began in La'ie, Hawai'i in the late 1800s. Various people have been credited with the innovation. [1]. The instrument was hugely popular - a major fad - in the United States during the 1920s and 1930s. It was electrified in the early Thirties by Bob Dunn,a musician in Houston,Texas (who played in the country-western swing band Milton Brown and His Brownies; Dunn had his own self-titled music store in the Houston area.) This made the so-called "Hawaiian" guitar the first electric instrument (just a few years before Les Paul and Charlie Christian modified their instruments). |
Bob Dunn eh, ??
This sort of misinformation will bring Wikipedia into more disrepute.
I must say that the terminology and facts HERE are a lot closer to the mark
Last edited by basilh on 27 Apr 2008 7:58 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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basilh
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United Kingdom
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Posted 27 Apr 2008 7:43 pm
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For starters :-
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basilh
From:
United Kingdom
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Posted 27 Apr 2008 7:46 pm
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And :-
From Aloha Dream February 2008 ..
Forgive the goof on the first page .. it should be numbered 11 ![:I] |
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basilh
From:
United Kingdom
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Posted 27 Apr 2008 7:56 pm
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You may ask who is Anthony Lis,
Professor Anthony Lis (Historian and musicologist at South Dakota State University)
Click Here
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basilh
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United Kingdom
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Posted 27 Apr 2008 8:05 pm
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Maybe Matthew, you can glean some information from the above, and YOU hit the "Edit" button..
There is also a wealth of information for your perusal in these articles :-
Hawaiian Guitar Origins
Slack Key History |
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 27 Apr 2008 9:42 pm
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| lotta crap out there, huh?! |
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basilh
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United Kingdom
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Posted 2 Aug 2008 4:19 am
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In response to inquiries about the referenced "Bristol Sessions" Prof. Lis sent me this info :-
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AJ Azure
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Posted 2 Aug 2008 10:34 am
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| basilh wrote: |
Bob Dunn eh, ??
This sort of misinformation will bring Wikipedia into more disrepute.
I must say that the terminology and facts HERE are a lot closer to the mark |
so this is in dispute? I have always heard that it WAS Dunn who first electrified. |
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basilh
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Posted 2 Aug 2008 6:11 pm
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Hi AJ. Bob Dunn was credited with the first RECORDING of an electrified instrument, I believe that that is way off the mark as the date is supposedly 1935..According to the Wikipedia entry here :- click here
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Robert Lee "Bob" Dunn was a jazz trombonist and a pioneer Western swing steel guitarist.[2]
He is noted as the first musician to record an electrically amplified instrument—January, 1935, with Milton Brown and His Musical Brownies.[3]
Dunn was elected to the Steel Guitar Hall of Fame in 1992.
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It states that: "on January 27 and 28, 1935, Dunn played an amplified steel guitar, which primarily was utilized for Hawaiian music."
So by innuendo that statement admits it WAS in use before then..
What about Mr. Tutmark's work in the late 20's and use by others of Rickenbackers in the early 30's, not the MID 30's
The semantics of the statement are also questionable as it states somewhat ambiguously:- "Electrified INSTRUMENT", and in that paragraph doesn't qualify <Instrument> |
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AJ Azure
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Posted 2 Aug 2008 6:34 pm
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so it's pretty darn vague!! Well it's Wikipedia not 100% correct facts-r-us 
editable wiki is great but, it can also be quite quite quite ambiguous, vague AND downright incorrect! |
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Chris Drew
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Bristol, UK
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Posted 6 Aug 2008 4:20 am
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In response to inquiries about the referenced "Bristol Sessions" Prof. Lis sent me this info :-
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Thanks for the help Basil.
Yeah, I'd seen that on Amazon, I was just wondering if there's somewhere better to buy these recordings that would more directly benefit those involved.
On this theme, did anyone catch Mark Lamarr's "Redneck Music" BBC Radio2 shows a while back, about "Hillbilly" & early Country/Blues?
Some interesting stuff on there, interviews & recordings. |
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basilh
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Posted 16 Aug 2008 5:23 pm
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| I'm Pretty sure the claims of Bob Dunn being the first are somewhat incorrect :- In December of 1934 Sol Ho’opi’i recorded “My Isle On Hilo Bay”, his first commercial recording on electric steel guitar. By February of 1936, when his contract with the Brunswick label expired, he had accumulated a total of fourteen classic tracks with his ‘Novelty Four’ and six with his ‘Novelty Five’. |
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Alan Brookes
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Posted 16 Aug 2008 7:55 pm
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| ....so why not contribute the REAL history to Wikipedia ? I believe anyone can contribute. |
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