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Topic: Buffer/signal loss question |
Brian Pelky
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Posted 28 Jul 2008 4:52 pm |
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Hi all....I have 8 pedals (most non-true bypass) in my chain. So I've been researching buffers, and learned of one by Axess Electronics - the BS2 - that is supposed to be excellent. with 20' of cable on one end, the 8 pedals, and 15' of cable going to the amp, I've heard the the buffer would help my tone tremendously. However, If I have a Goodrich L10K (battery powered) volume pedal, does THAT act as a buffer/signal booster? Would I need the separate buffer then?
Brian
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 28 Jul 2008 5:32 pm
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Yes, your powered pedal is a buffer. Now, a "better" buffer might improve your sound, but with over 35' of cable, and going through all those jacks, you will STILL be losing some signal strength, and some highs. Buffers, buffer pedals, preamps, etc., will only improve the situation. They can't change the laws of physics.
My obvious question is...
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Tim Harr
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Dunlap, Illinois
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Posted 28 Jul 2008 6:49 pm
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Twayn Williams
From:
Portland, OR
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Posted 28 Jul 2008 10:10 pm
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Ok, first, one bad buffer will spoil the whole bunch. The preferred way to run a long chain of fx pedals is to start with a high quality buffer as your first pedal, and end the chain with another quality buffer and have nothing but true-bypass pedals in-between. You don't need a dedicated buffer like the Axcess, many pedals have excellent buffers in them already, but too many buffers will unbalance your tone.
As an example, on my big board with 14 pedals I run a Zvex Box of Rock with the boost side turned to unity gain as my second pedal in line (the first is an SIB Nick Nitro fuzz pedal which doesn't get along with buffers.) I use George L's cables. With fewer pedals and less importance placed on high-end retention (i.e. using humbuckers) I've found a Bad Monkey to have a perfectly serviceable buffer, but its sibling pedal, the Screaming Blues to have a bad buffer.
Also, only use as long of cables as you need.
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Brian Pelky
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Portland, OR
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Posted 29 Jul 2008 4:13 pm wireless
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Hi Tim....it's been my experience that the wireless is worse than going with a cable. It compresses the signal and has a negative effect on the tone, as far as I've experienced. There are some very expensive wireless systems that national acts are using...but even national acts choose cables over wireless because of the effect on tone.
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