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Topic: Effects / Pedal Chain Order |
Cliff Kane
From: the late great golden state
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Posted 27 Jul 2008 8:46 pm
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Hi folks,
I know these types of questions have come up before, and I know that the answer is to experiment and see what works best (I will!), but as I'm in the final stages of aquiring the pedals for my new pedal board, I'm wondering where and WHY people place the following effects or pedals in their chain:
1) A phase shifter and a chorus? Do you put the phase shifter before or after the chorus?
2) A compressor and an envelope filter? Do you put the compressor before or after the envelope filter? I can see how puting a compressor before a filter will help give a more uniform filter sound, but I can also see how putting the compressor after the filter will retain the attack and envelop dynamics for the filter, and the compressor will even the output without losing the dynamics. I can see how both options might yield a cool effect.
The signal chain that I think I'll have when I'm done putting the board together will be:
1) guitar
2) BossTone fuzz
3) Matchbox
4) A/B box for a tuner
5) envelop filter or compressor (per my question)
6) compressor of envelop filter (per my question)
7) overdrive
8 ) distortion
9) chorus or phase shifter (per my question)
10) phase shifter or chorus (per my question)
11) volume pedal
12) short delay
13) long delay
14) amplifier input
Any thoughts, comments, advice, etc. is welcome and appreciated.
Thank you,
Cliff |
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Gary Richardi
From: SoCal, USA
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Posted 27 Jul 2008 9:25 pm
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I like putting dynamic modifiers like comps before other effects so it feeds them the hot, squashed signal. I like distortion before mods (phase/chorus, etc) so the mods get lots of overtones to work with. I can imagine using chorus AND phase together often so you're on your own there. I like to have a master vol pedal (for 6-string anyway) last before the amp to give me complete control over volume. Some like long delays after the master vol so echos don't get cut off.
Of course, there's no real "right" and "wrong" here... |
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Mike Davoult
From: Nevada
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Posted 28 Jul 2008 11:35 am
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With the exception of the Bosstone & matchbow I would put everything after the volume pedal also I would really make sure all the pedals have true bypass or your gonna lose an awful lot of signal. I like to keep my pedal board right beside me so I can make little tweaks while I'm playing |
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Cliff Kane
From: the late great golden state
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Posted 28 Jul 2008 1:50 pm
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Thanks, guys. I've been thinking about the volume pedal, and it seems that placing it after the overdrive, distortion, etc., but before the delay, will allow for a more consistant sound due to avoiding changes in level going into the pedals. I'll have to try both ways once it's all together. Most of these pedals are vintage DOD, MXR, Ibanez, etc., so I'm hoping that the Matchbox and any buffers in the pedals will negate signal loss. I doubt that many of these pedals are true bypass.
Thanks,
Cliff |
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Ron Wright
From: Modesto,CA
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Posted 28 Jul 2008 3:28 pm question
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soooo the effects would come from the psg output to effects ..then volume pedal then delay then amp?
thx |
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Posted 28 Jul 2008 9:49 pm
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soooo the effects would come from the psg output to effects ..then volume pedal then delay then amp? |
That's how I set mine up:
steel --> black box --> chorus --> overdrive --> volume pedal --> digital reverb --> digital delay --> amp.
The chorus and overdrive sound "stonger" if placed before the volume pedal. Reverbs and delays should go After the volume pedal so they are not clipped off when you back off on the volume pedal. Just my opinion, your mileage may vary. _________________ My Site / My YouTube Channel
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Twayn Williams
From: Portland, OR
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Posted 28 Jul 2008 10:16 pm
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Filter before the compressor, no question there in my experience. You'll want to be able to use the compressor to help tame some of the high end "twack" an envelope filter can put out.
I never use phaser and chorus at the same time, so I don't think their order matters, though you might want to try putting one before the distortion and the other after the distortion. _________________ Primitive Utility Steel |
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