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Terry McCumbee


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West Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 14 Jul 2008 3:50 am    
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C28xnXZMNCk
Here is a Demo of steel guitar in BIAB.I would like some opinions of what you steel players think of it.
Thanks
Terry
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richard burton


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Britain
Post  Posted 14 Jul 2008 5:02 am    
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I've been outplayed by a wafer of silicon Sad
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Richard Damron


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Gallatin, Tennessee, USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 14 Jul 2008 6:08 am    
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I've posted the method by which you may add the pedal steel function to almost any chart some time ago. Among other things, it won't work in 3/4 time.

Richard Burton: I've heard you play and you could blow that thing off the bandstand in a New York minute.

Gets to be very boring and unimaginative.

It doesn't have the capability of replacing any of us. Doesn't live up to the hype.

Respectfully,

Richard
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Rick Schmidt


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Prescott AZ, USA
Post  Posted 14 Jul 2008 2:49 pm    
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What happens if you type in more complex jazz changes?
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Richard Damron


From:
Gallatin, Tennessee, USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 14 Jul 2008 6:47 pm    
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Rick -

You know, from a previous post, how much I love your "Porkpie Hat". You play more changes in the intro to that than this "canned" version of pedal steel could ever generate.

As to your question: It appears that the BIAB program prefers to limit itself to half-measure changes in 4/4 time. A change on every beat is, more often than not, usually out of the question. Thus, if you have a chord on beat three and insert a passing chord on beat four, the program glosses over that last chord. Simple example: Simple turnaround consisting of 3m7, 3b7, 2m7, 2b7b5 to 1maj7. The program will supply a 2m7 but sustain it while the rest of the ensemble plays the 2b7b5.

Now, I know that you are a brilliant player and theoretician, but if you can tell me what a 2m7 and a 2b7b5 played together have in common other than a couple of notes, I'll eat a Porkpie Hat! To those of us accustomed to the beauty of even highly extended chords, the dissonance is unbearable.

Further, the program has a propensity to use 6th chords - all too often for my tastes - and is pretty much limited to root, 3rd, 5th, 6th and b7ths to the exclusion of most accidentals. In addition and believe it or not it also tries to play 4/4 figures over 3/4 time - imagine that if you will!

I've stopped using it for all applications save sparse fills in the background on, say, some country tunes. I then drop the velocity of the steel so it doesn't clutter up everything else but, rather, simply fills a space or two with steel sound. The above are off-of-the-top-of-my-head highlights but you get the idea.

Oh - lest I forget. I know that a couple of forumites have done renditions of Strayhorn's "Lush Life". Did you ever get around to doing one yourself?

Respectfully,

Richard
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