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Larry Behm


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Post  Posted 6 Jul 2008 9:56 am    
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Might be interesting to know if they still exist and where they are etc. Herb chime in.

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Tommy Detamore


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Post  Posted 6 Jul 2008 10:21 am    
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Billy Cooper's #1
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Bobbe Seymour

 

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Post  Posted 6 Jul 2008 3:52 pm    
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There are several folks that know where they all are, some folks don't wish to have it known that they have one though.

Check with Chris Lucker, and Herb Stiner to start.

I have had most of them at one time or other, as guitars to play though, I prefer the later ones. Starting around number twenty at least.

All Emmons P-P guitars are great, can't think of a bad year at all. The worst is wonderful, possibly the best! Whoa! Laughing


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Jody Sanders

 

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Magnolia,Texas, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 6 Jul 2008 8:19 pm    
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Ben Jack had one in the museum he had in his store in Ft. Smith, Ark. I believe it was #2, not sure. Jody.
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Mike Cass

 

Post  Posted 7 Jul 2008 6:05 am    
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#3 here.....stereo. I know where #4 is but Im not telling....also stereo. I also owned 11-64-007W (W for wood necks). It had original dual coil, old soapbar style pickups.
Nick Reed


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Russellville, KY USA
Post  Posted 7 Jul 2008 10:12 am    
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Here's a shot of Emmons #1 that's now in Billy Cooper's posession


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Chris Lucker

 

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Los Angeles, California USA
Post  Posted 7 Jul 2008 11:07 am    
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I have Number 2, which is the earliest unmolested, original, unmessed with Emmons.

I have Number 5, which was Buddy Cage's first Emmons.

I am in the process of acquiring at least one more -- maybe two more -- of the first ten Emmons dated/numbered guitars.

Incidentally, it is curious that Billy cooper's #1 is 464001, and my #2 is ES 130 002, and my #5 is 764005.

I also have some 1965 Wraparounds to keep these 1964s company.

I have heard that Emmons made guitars after 1965 but cannot substantiate it myself. I am very fortunate. Wink
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Larry Behm


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Mt Angel, Or 97362
Post  Posted 7 Jul 2008 7:02 pm    
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Wow not bad, #1, #2, #3, #4, #5 and two more to be added later. that would be 7 of 10. Not bad for 40+ years.

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Larry Behm


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Mt Angel, Or 97362
Post  Posted 7 Jul 2008 7:03 pm    
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Chris can you compare for me the sound of the wraparound vs other PP's you have or have heard?

Larry Behm
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chris ivey


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california (deceased)
Post  Posted 8 Jul 2008 9:57 am    
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chris...i liked the post '65 joke!
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Eric Philippsen


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Central Florida USA
Post  Posted 9 Jul 2008 4:41 am    
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I have recently seen another from the first ten. I'll tell the owner about this post and, in respect for his privacy, he can chime in if he wants.
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Mike Cass

 

Post  Posted 9 Jul 2008 6:29 am    
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make that 8 out of 10, L.Behm. I posted earlier that Id owned 1164007W. It now resides in Japan.
Chris Lucker

 

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Los Angeles, California USA
Post  Posted 9 Jul 2008 4:25 pm    
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I know where #9W is, so that makes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9 and 10 accounted for.

Does anyone know where #6 is?
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Ray Montee


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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
Post  Posted 9 Jul 2008 6:43 pm     My papers were stolen.................
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Some ten years or more ago, my 280TZ was stolen and my pack seat with all of my paper work was lost forever. I believe I have a PP from about 1970-72 but how can I find out what the serial number is?

I know where to find my BIGSBY's and Ricks but have no luck with my Emmons.
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Bruce Hamilton

 

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Vancouver BC Canada
Post  Posted 9 Jul 2008 8:00 pm    
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Larry
I have owned two wrap arounds and they do sound different than cut tails. I had the occasion to a&b both guitars with my 77 push pull which you are familiar with and both had less of the honking mid range of the later guitars. Also they had more highs. One of the guitars had a new 17.5 pickup which is comparable to what I have on my guitar and still there was a marked difference in sound. Of interest the first wrap around I owned had numerous series of numbers on the underside of the guitar stamped into both endplates. None of the numbers were the same. They appeared to be patent numbers relating to what I have no idea. I believe that guitar is in Japan now.
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Randy Gilliam

 

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San Antonio, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 9 Jul 2008 8:44 pm     Herb Steiner
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Herb Steiner What numbers Do You Have? Anyone Who has Heard one Of these Early PPs Know How great They sound. I Got a 1966 Bolton D 10 Black It Dont Sound Too Bad either . Very Happy

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Mike Cass

 

Post  Posted 10 Jul 2008 6:59 am    
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Apart from the difference in the changer mounts between a wrapper and a bolt-on, the difference in sound between the two also comes from the fact that wraparound necks are hollow as opposed to bolt-on's which have several ribs inside the necks. Weldon apparently thought this difference was significant as he filled his first wraparounds' hollow necks with wood inserts to kill the overtones.
Larry Behm


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Mt Angel, Or 97362
Post  Posted 13 Jul 2008 11:10 am    
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Killing the overtones, that IS interesting.

Bruce I have a friend in Portland with a wrap around and it does sound different, it may be the pickups but IT seems to lack any rickness, pretty thin.

Bruce good to see you are still on the forum. I am going to Bremerton tue to see Wayne Franco and his new hybrid Zummmmm.

Larry Behm
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Bruce Hamilton

 

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Vancouver BC Canada
Post  Posted 13 Jul 2008 9:06 pm    
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Larry
Let me know your thoughts on the Zum Hybrid when you get back. From all reports it sounds like a winner.
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