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Larry Hillman
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Posted 29 Jan 2008 11:53 am |
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for those who slip around, what tuning do you find
the most versatile. [C6 or E7]? need to know befor
final tuning. TKS |
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basilh
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Posted 29 Jan 2008 12:28 pm
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| No contest, C6 for most, E7 for sacred steel and gospel in general.IMHO |
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Bob Hoffnar
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Posted 29 Jan 2008 2:30 pm
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C6 from my perspective but an E13 looks interesting also. THe E7 has a tri tone built in but that is a simple slant on the C6. One thing that sold me on C6 is that you can play all the basic diatonic chords on 2 frets a whole step apart.
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Edward Meisse
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Santa Rosa, California, USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2008 2:36 pm
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I also find C6 to be the most versatile. But FINAL tuning? Are you dying?
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Jerry Tillman
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Posted 30 Jan 2008 4:03 am final tuning
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| I don,t know your age or condition of your health but I agree with Dr. Meisse that you should keep your options open.I am however afraid that I might leave some crazy tuning on one of my pedal or lap steels that might be discovered if I suddenly pass away and some family member or next in line owner will say,what the hell was he thinking.I forgot my point. lakeshrk ps I enjoy the 8 string c-6 tuning the most at present,very musical and logical in my opinion |
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HowardR
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N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Posted 30 Jan 2008 7:34 am
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| Edward Meisse wrote: |
| I also find C6 to be the most versatile. But FINAL tuning? Are you dying? |
I die every time I play....... |
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Larry Hillman
From:
New York, USA
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Posted 30 Jan 2008 10:13 am
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so far the only dead thing on my is my brain for taking up this hobby. hobby? i'm 65. if i make it to
90--- i may be able to play this thing.  |
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Greg Gefell
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Upstate NY
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Posted 10 Jun 2008 7:36 am
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| One thing that sold me on C6 is that you can play all the basic diatonic chords on 2 frets a whole step apart. |
Can anyone explain this better - perhaps with a diagram?
Thanks |
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Alan Brookes
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Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 10 Jun 2008 7:43 am
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| C6 for Hawaiian, Western Swing and Country, E7 or E for Blues, G for Folk and Bluegrass. |
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Rick Collins
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Claremont , CA USA
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Posted 10 Jun 2008 7:50 am
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C-6th. I seem to get fuller chords with straight bar and more possibilities with slant bar.
C# minor seems to offer fewer triads and chords in most tunes. In this tuning, I must play a lot of single notes. Too many single notes is just too clean, even for me.
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Bob Hoffnar
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Austin, Tx
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Bob Hoffnar
From:
Austin, Tx
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Posted 10 Jun 2008 1:47 pm
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One way to look at it is find your basic I, IV, V chord positions. In the key of C on the C6 tuning that would be frets open, 5 , 7 and 12.
Play a C major triad on the open fret
play a D minor triad on the 5th fret (the root note is on the A string)
Play an E minor chord by moving the d minor up 2 frets to fret 7.
play the F major triad by moving your original C chord up to the 5th fret
play the G major chord by moving the F chord up 2 frets to the 7th fret
A minor chord at the 12th fret
B dim screwy slant
C major 12th fret
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Posted 10 Jun 2008 9:16 pm
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I like E6 because it's a cousin of E9 pedal steel. A distant cousin for sure, but it feels comfortable to me. Most songs can be played on ANY of the lap steel tunings, although some tunings are better suited for certain styles. I would say find a tuning you are comfortable with and stick with it... for a while. 
I've been tinkering with E6 for the past year or so and I like how the relative chords lay out, with the root on the bottom of the voicings.
No 3 note diminished chord unless you do an insane backward slant.
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Greg Cutshaw
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Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 11 Jun 2008 5:33 am
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Larry,
I am using a 6 string C6th tuning. You can read about it and hear some sounds it can produce on my web site. I also have a 12 string lap steel on order and that will be C6th also.
Lap Steel Tabs and Tuning
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Greg Gefell
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Upstate NY
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Posted 11 Jun 2008 6:02 am
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OK - I see the triad chords that move up the neck horizontally (left to right), but Bob, when you said in an earlier post :
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| One thing that sold me on C6 is that you can play all the basic diatonic chords on 2 frets a whole step apart. |
...it seems like you are saying you know of a way to run up that harmonized scale in diads without having to jump up the neck horizontally but move vertically instead?
I know how to do this on E9 (all the basic diatonic chords on 2 frets a whole step apart) without even needing any pedals, but I can't find that same pattern on a 6 tuned neck. That is the diagram I'm hoping someone can post. |
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Gary C. Dygert
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Frankfort, NY, USA
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Posted 11 Jun 2008 8:25 am
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| What Doug said. Different tunings work for different people. Mess around with a few till you find the ones that fit you. I also like how things lay out in E6, even in reso playing. E min is at the G position, A min at C, & so on. |
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Bob Hoffnar
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Austin, Tx
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Posted 11 Jun 2008 2:49 pm
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Greg:
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| ..it seems like you are saying you know of a way to run up that harmonized scale in diads without having to jump up the neck horizontally but move vertically instead? |
In my previous post I show a simple way to play the diatonic triads mostly on 2 frets on any C6 tuning. I wrote the same thing as Doug in a different key. You can get the 6 minor at the IV chord position if you leave out the 5th and the 1 chord at the V chord position if you have a low F. I don't understand your question. You could play a harmonized scale like that if you left out a note of the triad I guess.
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| I know how to do this on E9 (all the basic diatonic chords on 2 frets a whole step apart) without even needing any pedals |
I have no idea how it could be possible to do that. I sent you my number in the PM thing. Give me a call and we can figure it out.
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Greg Gefell
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Upstate NY
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Posted 13 Jun 2008 7:45 am
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Thanks Bob - I will call when I have some time to talk.
This is the E9 pattern(s) I was referring to.
I actually tune to a combination of E9 and E6, so on my bottom strings I can play the grips that Doug notated as well. |
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Ron Whitfield
From:
Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 13 Jun 2008 8:45 am
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| Let's hear it for those insane backward slants! |
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