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Kevin Hatton

 

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Post  Posted 28 May 2008 11:13 pm    
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I'd like your opinions. Here are pictures of two different color scheme Retro Custom ZB's with new mechanics that I build. Please tell me if you like the two tone natural tops and front stain, or the solid stain body. I can make them either way. I am partial to the two tone classic ZB look, but others who have seen the solid stain guitar marvel at it and are partial to that. Please give me your opinion. I can make them either way. Anyhow, let me know if you like solid or two tone. When I figure out how to insert the picture here I'll add it.[/img]


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Mike Perlowin


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Post  Posted 29 May 2008 12:54 am     Re: New Retro Custom Steel Guitar ZB's
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Kevin Hatton wrote:
Oh wait, the image insert is gone!


Even though the forum's upload pictures feature is down, you can still post them if you use Photobucket.

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This is a free photo hosting service. Once you have your pictures there, you can just copy the code and paste it into the forum, and even now while the picture upload function is disabled the pictures will show up.

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Kevin Hatton

 

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Post  Posted 29 May 2008 5:36 am    
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Thanks Mike. I'll try it.
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Ben Elder

 

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La Crescenta, California, USA
Post  Posted 29 May 2008 9:55 pm    
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Two-tone.

(And while we're at it: white fingerboards and white pickups.)
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Steve Broatch

 

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Newcastle, England
Post  Posted 30 May 2008 2:05 am    
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Solid stain. But I agree with the white fingerboard Very Happy
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 30 May 2008 8:49 am    
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As a former ZB player, I prefer the solid colors. But, I have seen some great two tones on here.

I think the white fretboards and pickups work best on black guitars, and mayge dark blue. The darker the stain, the better. I've seen them on some other colors that did not look right.
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Stu Schulman


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Post  Posted 30 May 2008 11:07 am    
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Kevin,Two tone.Stu Winking
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 30 May 2008 4:30 pm    
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I just want to add that I think Kevin deserves a lot of praise for building "new" ZB guitars. I think it's great. Would love to have one if I had the bucks and he made D-10's.
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Dan Tyack

 

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Olympia, WA USA
Post  Posted 2 Jun 2008 6:06 am    
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Two tone (with blond tops)!

I think this is a great idea, Kevin. A ZB with modern mechanics is just about the only pedal steel that I don't own that I'd consider buying.
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Jim Peters


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Post  Posted 2 Jun 2008 3:52 pm    
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Kevin, is it the same type changer with different pull rods and bellcranks, or is it a modern all pull changer. Great work! JP
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Kevin Hatton

 

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Post  Posted 2 Jun 2008 4:00 pm    
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Jim, same changer on the top half(the important half for sound). Lower portion is double raise/lower. We designed it that way. It gets the exact sound of a 68. By the way, I offer both white or black fret boards. Pickups are white.
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Mike Perlowin


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Post  Posted 2 Jun 2008 6:30 pm    
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Kevin, not that I can afford it, (or need another steel) but just out of curiosity, could you make a U-12 with a triple raise and lower?
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Kevin Hatton

 

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Post  Posted 2 Jun 2008 6:48 pm    
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Absolutely not. No Uni's. No D-10's. SD-10's only at this point. These are great club guitars.
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Kevin Hatton

 

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Buffalo, N.Y.
Post  Posted 4 Jun 2008 9:21 pm    
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New precision mechanics. Quick change bell cranks.

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Brendan Mitchell


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Melbourne Australia
Post  Posted 5 Jun 2008 12:25 am    
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Kevin I love the look of the two tone . I refinished my D10 in plain blond but I would have love to make it two tone .
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John Billings


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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 5 Jun 2008 3:32 am    
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Two-tone fer shure!
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 5 Jun 2008 4:58 am    
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Two tone is the look of a classic ZB!
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Mike DiAlesandro


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Kent, Ohio
Post  Posted 7 Oct 2022 3:54 pm     14 year Bump
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Cool idea, how many were made total, and where are they now?

I am curious about the modern changer having the same tone as the original with the stops on the endplate, but it appears that they were well thought out and achieved the tone from what I have read.

Who owns one today?
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Kevin Hatton

 

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Buffalo, N.Y.
Post  Posted 7 Oct 2022 8:28 pm    
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I made five along with Jerry Fessenden. The tone was exact ZB in that the fingers were Russlers and the caps were ZB. The pickups were exact ZB replicas. Superior sand castings also. One is in France. My student has one. Gary Brandin plays the only S-10 I made. I decided not to go into the steel guitar business. Large capital expenditure for very little return. The new Emmons are priced about right in order to make a going concern.
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Mike DiAlesandro


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Kent, Ohio
Post  Posted 8 Oct 2022 9:05 am    
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Kevin,

Thank you for your informative response. Do you still own the rights to the ZB Custom trademark name?

As you know, ZB's are one of the best sounding steels from that era, with a unique tone.The pickup design is unique as well.Do you still wind pickups in the original ZB style?

It would be so cool to be able to produce a few more in a boutique fashion, as you were doing. I thought that the Kline pulling system would mate well with the existing changer system. But I have no resources to pursue it, or I probably would.

And on another note... do you have any pedal bar decals available?

Thanks! Smile
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 8 Oct 2022 2:06 pm    
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Beautiful work, Kevin! Cool I like the tu-tone, as well, and I always thought that those old Z-B guitars were the most attractive design of them all, with those angle-front endplates, and the "horns" on the changer and headstock. (I believe Buddy called them "cat ears". Very Happy )
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Kevin Hatton

 

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Buffalo, N.Y.
Post  Posted 8 Oct 2022 6:31 pm    
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Mike, yes I have pedal bar decals. No on the pickup winding, although I know how to do it. I completely got out of it. I sold everything to two forum members who apparently never understood the project. The right to the name is largely established by manufacture. You just can't hold a brand copyright and not manufacture. It's against the trademark laws. So no, I don't own anything at this point. I was hoping that the two forum members took up the project. I had engineering cad drawings and an ace aluminum castings supplier, which was key to the signature sound. It was more of a project than I could tackle myself. Just making up polyurethane bodies took a lot of time. I had my own personal bills to pay and couldn't devote enough time/resources to the project.
I will say this, if that guitar was ever resurrected correctly it would blow most steels available today out of the water for tone. Having talked to Tom Brumley before his passing I know exactly what makes those guitars tick. I play an original '67 and it smokes tone. Classic ZB tone. I've owned most major brands. I'll be playing Loretta Lynn's hits on it tomorrow at a gig.
I think that the people who are producing the new Emmons guitars have done it right. They are getting superior tone because of their materials and design. I can relate to their thinking. Bravo job.
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