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Topic: (SOLD) 1969 Fender Champ (SOLD) |
Jim Ervin
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Posted 10 Apr 2008 6:32 pm |
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1969 Fender Champ.
Excellent condition for its age.
This amp is not stock, and the mods include the following:
*Push/pull pot added on the treble control. Pushed in retains the stock bass/treble tone stack. Pulled out defeats the tone stack for tweed Champ tones.
*Weber alnico speaker
*3-prong cord
$425 shipped. No Paypal. USPS money order only.
No trades.
Last edited by Jim Ervin on 17 Apr 2008 10:37 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Jim Ervin
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Frazer, PA
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Posted 11 Apr 2008 7:14 pm
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| Still for sale. |
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Papa Joe Pollick
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Swanton, Ohio
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Posted 11 Apr 2008 8:19 pm
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| What size speaker is that Jim??...PJ |
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Jim Ervin
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Frazer, PA
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Posted 12 Apr 2008 3:54 am
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| Papa Joe Pollick wrote: |
| What size speaker is that Jim??...PJ |
Hi PJ
That's an 8" Weber alnico.
Jim |
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Craig A Davidson
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Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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Posted 12 Apr 2008 4:25 am
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| Jim how does that Weber compare to the original? My original in mine just doesn't cut it. |
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Jim Ervin
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Frazer, PA
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Posted 12 Apr 2008 6:03 am
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| Craig A Davidson wrote: |
| Jim how does that Weber compare to the original? My original in mine just doesn't cut it. |
Like a night and day improvement!
The orignal (Oxford?) sounded harsh and tinny...almost like an oversized transistor radio.
The Weber sounds smooth, clear, warm...both the highs and lows have good prescence, and not overwhelming in the mids.
It's still an 8" speaker, but it's the best one I've heard. |
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John Purcell
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Florida, USA
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Posted 12 Apr 2008 6:40 am
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Like a night and day improvement!
The orignal (Oxford?) sounded harsh and tinny...almost like an oversized transistor radio.
The Weber sounds smooth, clear, warm...both the highs and lows have good prescence, and not overwhelming in the mids.
It's still an 8" speaker, but it's the best one I've heard.[/quote]
I'll second that. I put an 8" Weber alnico in my '68 VibroChamp and the difference in sound was amazing.
More clean headroom and better bottom end.
The best upgrade you can make for a Fender Champ IMO. |
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Craig A Davidson
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Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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Posted 12 Apr 2008 6:42 am
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| Okay who has the speaker? I think I will get one for mine. Oh yeah bump^ for this nice champ. |
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Jim Sliff
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Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 12 Apr 2008 8:40 am
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Another bump.
Note the original filter cap "can" has been replaced with individual caps. To me that's a GOOD thing, as the original will have reached the end of its service life and the "can" replacements are very poor quality.
This amp has been, as far as I can tell, completely serviced with a full cap job and 3-prong plug; it appears that some of the original carbon resistors had drifted and have been replaced with new types, another good upgrade. If you bought a bone-stock '69 it'd cost you at least the same amount (maybe more because of collectable status - the drip-edge Champs are very rare) and you'd have to spend another $150+ on a full going-over, a cap job, other parts replacements and power cord replacement to make it safely playable (the cap job prevents the amp from suddenly going up in smoke, taking out the output transformer in the process. The power cord is a safety issue and should ALWAYS be replaced with a grounded 3-prong plug).
As far as the speaker goes, some players like the Classic alnico and it's a great speaker; my preference is for the least expensive Weber, the Signature ceramic (either smooth or ribbed cone - I prefer the ribbed model just hair). It seems to be a perfect match for a Champ and sounds (to me) exactly like a Champ with an original CTS Alnico, one of my favorite Champ speakers. The Signatures are only 25 bucks or so!
Last note - in today's amp market, this amp is, IMO *underpriced*. you cannot get a hand-wired, essentially brand-new "collectable" amp for that kind of money. The only thing that kicks the price down a notch is the push-pull upgrade and the type of cap job, but only purists would be put off by that; as a player it's worth FAR more.
I'd be tempted if I already didn't have a couple! In fact, now I'm worried I saw this thread...my Paypal account is flush....wait, no Paypal...thank God!
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No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional |
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Keith Cordell
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San Diego
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Posted 14 Apr 2008 9:12 am
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| Yeah the no Paypal thing is all that's saving me on this one right now. These are great amps. |
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Jim Ervin
From:
Frazer, PA
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Posted 15 Apr 2008 2:07 am
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| Sale pending |
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Chuck Martin
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Clifton, Virginia
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Posted 15 Apr 2008 8:40 am
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Jim,
I can see in the photo of the chassis where the old "can" was removed. I'm pretty sure the original "cans" contained four 20mfd, 450v caps. In the photo it looks like the orange one replaced it. Do you know what value was used? I have an old Princeton that I'm pretty sure has a bad filter "can" based on the noise that its making and want to repair it.
Thanks, Chuck |
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Jim Ervin
From:
Frazer, PA
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Posted 15 Apr 2008 9:09 am
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| Chuck Martin wrote: |
Jim,
I can see in the photo of the chassis where the old "can" was removed. I'm pretty sure the original "cans" contained four 20mfd, 450v caps. In the photo it looks like the orange one replaced it. Do you know what value was used? I have an old Princeton that I'm pretty sure has a bad filter "can" based on the noise that its making and want to repair it.
Thanks, Chuck |
Chuck,
I don't have any idea what the value of the new cap is. If you like, I can provide you with the name and phone number of the tech who did the recap. PM me if interested.
Jim |
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Michael Pierce
From:
Madison, CT
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Posted 15 Apr 2008 11:25 am Fender Champ
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| Are these Champs used primarily for six string (or perhaps lap steel), or do folks use them for pedal steel as well, perhaps in small settings? Just curious. |
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Jim Ervin
From:
Frazer, PA
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Posted 17 Apr 2008 10:35 am Re: 1969 Fender Champ (SOLD)
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| Jim Ervin wrote: |
1969 Fender Champ.
Excellent condition for its age.
This amp is not stock, and the mods include the following:
*Push/pull pot added on the treble control. Pushed in retains the stock bass/treble tone stack. Pulled out defeats the tone stack for tweed Champ tones.
*Weber alnico speaker
*3-prong cord
$425 shipped. No Paypal. USPS money order only.
No trades.
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Jim Ervin
From:
Frazer, PA
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Posted 17 Apr 2008 10:39 am Re: 1969 Fender Champ (SOLD)
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| Champ is now sold. Thanks to all who were interested. |
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