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Topic: Working with drummers... |
Don McClellan
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California/Thailand
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Dale Dorsey
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Granger, Indiana, USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2008 7:54 pm |
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This guy is the whole show. What a hoot!
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David Hartley
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 12:53 am FUNNY ONE..!
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We've all heard drummers like that in bands.. The expression, "Sounds like a LOBSTER IN A BISCUIT (COOKIE) TIN" springs to mind after watching this..
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Mark White
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Michigan, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 1:36 am
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It's guys like that that give drummers a bad rep.
He should be strapped to his throne and given a pair of brushes  Even then he might be hard to take....... |
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Damien Odell
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Springwood, New South Wales, Australia
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 2:22 am
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| My goodness, that really is quite something. I'm going to need a few moments to gather my thoughts after watching that. |
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Ron Patrick
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Kentucky, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 5:02 am
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| Why would a singer want to sing in front of that guy ? Must be a relative . |
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Paul Wade
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mundelein,ill
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 5:17 am
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i work with one now!!! wisconsin hillbilly  |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 5:53 am
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He's not just building a birdhouse, he's building an apartment complex!  |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 6:07 am
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| Very phunny! I just sent it to my drummer buddies. They'll not think it's phunny! The girl is quite lovely, but it looks like she's had her eyes "done." |
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Tamara James
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 6:11 am there is a correct way...
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One little thing..Did you notice his left hand? The grip on the stick was correct as opposed to the overhand grip that is common. I would think the guy was bored with the basic task of keeping time. Kinda like trying to play PSG with no pedals when you are used to 3 and 5. Boring!. He may have been properly trained and may have taken lessons for years. I took 3 years of lessons myself, years ago.
In 40 years I probably have forgotton more about playing drums than most of the kids in a band know. And they are doing fine. |
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Mark White
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Michigan, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 6:37 am
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Both methods of holding the sticks are considered correct now. The traditional way you see this drummer using was developed during civil war times for marching drummers, it was easier to strike the drum head with the drum slung at their side using that grip. It's the grip I started with and used for years too. It's hard to get much striking force with your left hand when you're on a kit and go to your toms with that grip. When you see someone playing a tympani (kettle drum) or melody percussion you'll notice they are using the overhand grip with both hands.
A little trivia fer ya'.....perhaps a little too much for a steel forum  |
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Brian McGaughey
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Orcas Island, WA USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 6:41 am
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The most interesting thing about it to me is that the producer of the video saw fit to include the drummer in the majority of the shots. He upstages the vocalist! I found it extremely entertaining.
Don, as an aside, we were in your neck of the woods last month...BEAUTIFUL!
Tamara, it's my understanding as a drummer myself that the reason for the left hand "traditional grip" as it's called comes from the old fashioned need to strike a snare drum while marching as hung from a shoulder strap and leaning toward the right. The grip facilated a better position for striking of the drum.
Matched grip or timpani grip (thumbs up) can offer as much technical nuance on a drum as traditional grip. My opinions of course.
edited to say you beat me to it mark!
Brian |
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Mark White
From:
Michigan, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 6:47 am
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It's always good to get a second opinion Brian  |
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HowardR
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N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 7:00 am
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| Mark White wrote: |
| perhaps a little too much for a steel forum |
the wonderful thing (for me) about this forum, is that I've learned much about other instruments and musicianship in general......which to me, relates back to the steel guitar.....because you're playing with others.....understanding others & their instruments is an important part of what makes a good/great steel player.....
carry on....... |
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Alan Coldiron
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Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 8:15 am
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| Generally when I have worked with drummers like this they are introduced to me using the following phase "Wait 'till you hear this guy, he's a great jazz drummer". |
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Jim Bob Sedgwick
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Clinton, Missouri USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 8:32 am
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| Drummers that play like that are trying to put 10 pounds of crap in a five pound bag. Apparently, this guy never heard of going for a unit sound. He's a hot dog. If you notice, his meter starts to sound like a tennis shoe in a clothes dryer. It's an attention getting ploy and very annoying to the other band members. Before you can ice a cake, you must first BAKE the cake. JMO |
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Mark White
From:
Michigan, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 10:21 am
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| Absolutely, a little less stick twirling and jumping about and a little more attention to meter. After all, it's the drummers first job. I must say, it was funny to watch though |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 10:38 am
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I found it kinda entertaining, not unlike the faces and mannerisms of Joe Wright when he's playing. I did a double-take, at first, thinking it was Jackie Chan from some chop-sucky movie.
And yes, I've played with a drummer like that. Old timers from the Baltimore area would know him by the name of "Little Marty", alias Marty Kulaki. |
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Tamara James
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 1:59 pm
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| Brian McGaughey wrote: |
Tamara, it's my understanding as a drummer myself that the reason for the left hand "traditional grip" as it's called comes from the old fashioned need to strike a snare drum while marching
Brian |
Old Fashioned? That blindsided me. You are correct. It probably is. I paid my dues in the high school marching band. (30 years ago.)I could probably still play that cadance we learned. Time does fly. I guess I should pay more attention. I have been so wrapped in Guitars for the last few years that I lost track of the changes...thank you for pointing out how old fashioned I am....(LOL) |
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Don McClellan
From:
California/Thailand
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 4:10 pm
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HowardR, That was a very true and well stated comment. Thanks. I'm pleased to see so many others enjoying this wacky video as much as I did. The guy is in a white tuxedo too. So this must have been a big gig for them. I would guess the drummer here is the leader of this group and he might even have a sort of cult following bunch of fans who go to his gigs and just laugh their brains out. Who knows? I hope so.
Brian, I'm glad to hear you enjoyed this neck of the woods. Were you on Maui or on one or more of our neighbor islands? The weather here is hard to beat. Isn't it? |
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Roger Crawford
From:
Griffin, GA USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 4:48 pm
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| Yeah, the "matching" grip is what is being taught now, as all mallet instruments have used that grip forever. Why have a seperate grip for snare drum? With the Hi-Steppers that today's marching bands use, the matched grip works beautifully. As for this bird, I'd be sent home early if I did that! |
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Mike Winter
From:
Portland, OR
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Brian McGaughey
From:
Orcas Island, WA USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 6:59 pm
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Tamara, Nothing wrong with old fashioned. I was going to mention "civil war" times but I specifically chose the phrase "old fashioned". I guess that sounds old fashioned.
I'm old fashioned, too. I digress...
Don, We were indeed on Maui, at Honokowai.
And now back to our thread... |
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Dave Harmonson
From:
Seattle, Wa
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 9:41 pm
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What do you call a guy that hangs out with musicians?
Drummer |
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David Hartley
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Posted 6 Apr 2008 11:31 pm Hi Don
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This is so funny, whatever was you searching for when you came across this video? I want him in my band! Erh? Not Really. It would start off the 'concealled' debate again.. Cant help watching it though, There's a bass player I know of who I have seen at Jams over here, and I have never heard him hit a right note yet, If ever I can video him, I will.. Keith White? You know who I mean..
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