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Abel Khineche


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Santa Clarita California, USA
Post  Posted 31 Mar 2008 5:23 pm    
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Hi All,

I recorded this tune today after being inspired by Jim Eaton's performance at "Romancing the Bean" Saturday, and encouraged by Mike Perlowin that I should keep playing the Steel.
It's my second few hours session with the Lap Steel, and I realize how difficult it would be to play it correctly. My whole body is fully concentrated just to do (clumsily) a few basic licks. I can't fathom how you can play so well while using your knees and feet.

If anyone would like the backing track to do justice to Elvis beautiful song, just let me know.
I would like to get some feedback to correct many things I do wrong, I still havn't gotten how to avoid the buzzing of strings and how to do real breaks where you don't hear any sound.
Now I realize that I need a better tone bar (a rounded one) as mine, a Dunlop, has edges all around and get stuck in between the strings.
Also, I am using the C6th tuning. Is this the best suited for this tune ?

Anyway, good or bad, here it is:

http://akhineche.com/SHE_IS_NOT_YOU.WMV

Disregard the tons of mistakes.

Best Regards,
Abel
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Stuart Legg


Post  Posted 31 Mar 2008 5:38 pm    
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Great stuff Abel! Keep it coming. I think we need to have more videos from the non-pedal players.
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Jim Eaton


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Santa Susana, Ca
Post  Posted 31 Mar 2008 5:46 pm    
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Able,
All you need is more "time in the saddle" my friend!
Sent you an e-mail about some dunlop bars I saw on e-bay, should help with the single note stuff where you want to pick up the back end of the bar and fret just one or two strings.
You can mute strings with your right hand too!
It called "pick blocking" and I'm sure you already do it on 6 string, I've heard your guitar playing so I know you can do it.
Much improvement with you fingers staying down on the strings behind the bar to kill off the overtones and try to keep your right hand closer to the strings and make your picking movement be more in you fingers and not so much of a hand movement.
Keep it up and you'll be ready for pedals soon!
JE:-)>
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Abel Khineche


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Santa Clarita California, USA
Post  Posted 31 Mar 2008 6:33 pm    
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Thank you for yor encouraging comments.

Steel is so much fun, I just wish I could play it.

Jim, Thank you very much for your tips,Today I am at
home (L.A. City Holiday)so I did see your
email and I will order one at once.
I started using 2 fingers besided the thumb
but I don't feel comfortable with the picks,
so I am playing with my bare fingers (2). Is
it Ok ?.
I wish you or Mike lived closer.
I think you meant the "front end of the bar and
fret just one or two strings" (the rounded end?)
Very valuable advice you are giving me here.
Thank you.

Best Regards,
Abel
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Jim Eaton


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Santa Susana, Ca
Post  Posted 31 Mar 2008 7:50 pm    
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Able,
Yes it is ok to use your "bare" fingers, but you can pick a note and then mute it with the same finger that you picked it with. That is exactly what I do when I "pick block", I just do it with my picks.
With the round nose bar, you can pick up the back end of the bar and play one or two strings with the nose of the bar and not have to mute the strings that your not playing on. You only want to cover the strings your playing on. If you are playing a single note line on your 3rd and 4th strings as an example, you do not want to have the nose of the bar up on the 2nd and 1st strings where it will have to be muted or you'll get notes you don't want to hear.
By lifting up the back end of the bar, your taking the 5th and 6th strings out of play. That is why you need the round nose bar, to be able to do that type of move. Keep at it, your on your way.
JE:-)>
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MSA Legend SD12 5/5 -06'
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Brian Doyle

 

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Guisborough, Cleveland, U.K.
Post  Posted 1 Apr 2008 6:38 am    
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hello abel i enjoyed that i go on your site and
listen to you play the shadows.apache sounds great
on lap steel / the shadows on lap steel/ that should
be no problem for you abel
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Andy Sandoval


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Bakersfield, California, USA
Post  Posted 1 Apr 2008 9:27 am    
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Abel, your on a virtual roll boy! I admire your enthusiasm. I'm just amazed at your progress in such a short time and I don't think you'll have any problems with learnin steel guitar. Looks like your startin to get the hang of muting behind the bar by layin the fingers down on the strings. A rounded bar with an indentation on the back will work better for slants too. And don't be intimidated by slants either. I though I'd never get the hang of it and tried to avoid them sometimes but with practice they eventually become second nature, but you already know this stuff from your six string electric playin. Just stick with it because you've definitely got an edge goin on.
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Abel Khineche


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Santa Clarita California, USA
Post  Posted 1 Apr 2008 6:46 pm    
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Very encouraging comments for me to keep at least
playing around with steel and attending ANY show where a steel player is present.

Priceless tips you are giving me here Jim and Andy
Thank you very much.

Jim, I visited your Myspace and the videos look great (you didn't have to mention my name really, it 's all my pleasure and you deserve way more exposure than that).

Andy, the backing track is on its way to you.

Blessings,
Abel
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