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Topic: Best Replacement speakers for a 1969 Fender Super Reverb |
Lefty
From:
Grayson, Ga.
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Posted 1 Mar 2008 5:56 am |
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This amplifier has the original speakers that sound good, but when I push it with a pedal I worry that I will blow one of them. I have the Jensen reissues in my 68 Super. They sound good when pushed, but lack the sweet tone at normal volume. Weber makes several models that are suppose to be good.
Please offers some opinions on replacements. I am looking for as good a clean Fender tone as possible.
thanks,
Lefty |
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Jay Ganz
From:
Out Behind The Barn
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Posted 1 Mar 2008 6:24 am
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| Which reissues are you using now...the C10R's (ceramic)or P10R's (alnico)? |
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Lefty
From:
Grayson, Ga.
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Posted 1 Mar 2008 10:27 am
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The 68 has the P10R reissue Jensens (Italian made, I believe).
Lefty |
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Jim Sliff
From:
Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 2 Mar 2008 8:14 am
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The Jensen "reissues" are neither "Jensen" nor "reissues".
An Italian company bought the name and trademarks. They did NOT buy the designs or specs. A "reissue" P10Q is NOT the same speaker as a vintage P10Q except in name.
I've found every single Jensen "reissue" to be harsh and strangled sounding. They *can* be broken in, but it takes a long time of playing them at medium volume and a knowledge of how to remove the "dope" that's applied to reinforce the cone. I have one pair of 10's that sound good, but I spent months working on them - ridiculous for most players.
Just call Ted Weber, tell him what your guitar/effects setup is and what type of sound you are looking for. He will recommend the right ones based on your budget, and with a Super sometimes it's even a mixed-pair set.
Use the Jensens for paperweights.
Barring that, you can look at various Eminence designs - but a phone call will be worth your time, and he never "oversells" anyone.
Last - IF you can find a quad of CTS ceramic 10's from the 70's you might really like them if you're not going for squeaky-clean sounds. The mid 70's CTS 10's and 12's are some of my favorite speakers. I serviced a Deluxe Reverb for a guy that had a CTS 12 in it and it was probably THE best DR I've ever heard - BF, SF, whatever.
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Lefty
From:
Grayson, Ga.
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Posted 3 Oct 2011 8:31 am
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Well I am working on a 1964 Super reverb and debating on the speakers. I am considering the Weber California paper cone (2) and the 10F125 (2).
The Cali is rated at 60 watts and the 10F125 at 30 watts. Does anyone have experience with a similiar setup? I am looking for clean country with headroom and warmness (arn't we all?).
thanks.
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Dave LaSalle
From:
Ontario, Canada
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Posted 3 Oct 2011 8:34 am
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Speakers should be ok. Maby the caps. Just spitt ballin'
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Rich Hlaves
From:
Wildomar, California, USA
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Posted 3 Oct 2011 2:57 pm
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Lefty,
Ceramic magnets should give you less compression at higher volumes hence more clean headroom.
In the case of two BF supers I owned to AB the alnicos vs. ceramics would start to hair up about 4 1/2 on the dial and I stayed clean to about 6 with the ceramics. Ear splitting loud at that point.
I was using the #2 input with my Emmons so the PU wouldn't overdrive the front end of the SR.
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Tim Marcus
From:
San Francisco, CA
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Posted 3 Oct 2011 8:29 pm
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If you're concerned you can take the original speakers out and store them. Get new speakers and put the old ones in their boxes. Store them somewhere that is not going to be excessively moist.
I really really can't say enough good things about the Jupiter ceramic speakers:
http://jupitercondenser.com/Guitar-Speakers/guitar-speakers.html
they are built to the original Jensen spec, and blow everything I have heard out of the water. Plus Chris is an excellent guy - you can trust him with your tone!
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Dan Tyack
From:
Olympia, WA USA
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Posted 4 Oct 2011 12:05 pm
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I agree with the mixed set idea. In my experience mixing different sounding speakers can give a bigger, more dimensional sound.
My friend Andy Marshall at THD amps built the first 'beautique' 59' Bassman type amp a couple of decades ago. In the process he had dozens of late 50s Bassmans in his shop, trying different amps through the speakers of the other amps, and he said the best sounding speaker cab had 4 10" speakers, non of which were the same. I think he said there was an old Jenson, a JBL D110, a Rolla, and a Radio Shack branded speaker. |
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