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Jim Ragan

 

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Texas, USA
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2008 5:43 pm    
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I am thinking of changing my E9 neck to the bottom on my old D12 MSA because the knee levers are easier to use from a distance and I could see the E9 better.
What do you think???
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Paul Redmond

 

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Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2008 7:44 pm    
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I tried this on My PS-210 and I like it. No one really seems to know just why the two necks have been set up on steels the way they have been over the years. Just one of those evolutionary things that just sort of stuck. Mooney has his E9th in back and so did Curly Chalker.
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Jim Ragan

 

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Texas, USA
Post  Posted 18 Feb 2008 5:54 pm    
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Thanks Paul ,
I am now in the process of changing it.
Jim
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Mark Eaton


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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
Post  Posted 18 Feb 2008 6:03 pm    
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Paul Redmond wrote:
I tried this on My PS-210 and I like it. No one really seems to know just why the two necks have been set up on steels the way they have been over the years. Just one of those evolutionary things that just sort of stuck. Mooney has his E9th in back and so did Curly Chalker.
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Mooney plays mostly E9th and Chalker was famous for C6th.

So what does it all mean? Confused
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Jerry Hayes


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Virginia Beach, Va.
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2008 8:33 am    
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One of the better players around this area (southern Virginia, northern North Carolina) named Bobby "Muskrat" Reames has done this for many years. Bobby was/is a big fan of Curly Chalker's so that's why he does it but it works great for him....JH in Va.
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Dan Burnham


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Greenfield, Tennessee
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2008 9:42 am     My Shobud
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I bought a shobud off the forum that had C6/E9 on it and it was looked down upon because of that. It doesn't matter to me which neck the E9 or C6 is on.

I've never seen such a group of players like us that are so finicky. If everything isn't just right, we won't do it.

What happen to the challenge and adventure of doing something different?

Just my 2 cents worth.

Dan
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Bob Kagy

 

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Lafayette, CO USA
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2008 3:01 pm    
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Unless you're leaving the E9th pedals on the left and C6th on the right, there are some pedal combos on the C6th that take both feet - you may not need them, but if you do it'll be tougher to get that right foot further to the left.

Depends on what you play; just a thought.
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David Doggett


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Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2008 4:20 pm    
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In addition to what Bob K. said, someone once said it is nice that when you lean back a little to play the back C6 neck it is easier to see the pedals. You move your feet around on the pedals more on C6. When you move forward to play E9, you can't see the pedals, but you spend most of your time with your foot glued to the A and B pedals, and if you move it, it is only over one pedal to catch the B and C pedals.

As far as the history goes, C6 was extremely popular before pedal steels. It was the main neck for many lap steelers, and they had it on their closest neck. E6, E7 or E9 was fairly common on the front neck. The pedals turn E9 into an A6 tuning, which was about as popular as C6. It was very natural for many players to keep C6 on their nearest neck, and experiment with pedals on the front neck. The C6 pedals came later.
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Fred Glave


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McHenry, Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2008 4:27 pm    
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I always thought that it would be better to have the neck you play most of the time closer to you. That way you can see the pedals better. But, I guess the long term plan should be to get to know where your pedals are without having to look at, or for them. Oh Well
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Mike Ester


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New Braunfels, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2008 4:36 pm    
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It's a West Texas thing. Just ask Phred Shannon. Very Happy
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Paul Redmond

 

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Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2008 9:48 pm    
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On the PS-210 I have only five pedals and I wanted to use them all on the C6th neck. When switched to the 'rear neck' mode, only three of the pedals operate that neck which is one of the reasons I opted to switch the necks around. Plus, I DID want to try something different. All four of the KL's operate on both necks. The PS-210 sits a bit higher than my other steels and I was not about to cut anything short or change the original guitar dimensionally. I find it very comfortable with the necks reversed. Plus I have two extra KL's to fool around with on the C6th tuning as I usually only use two KL's on that neck. It's a fun guitar to play and I have no intentions of switching it back to E9th front configuration.
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Jim Ragan

 

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Texas, USA
Post  Posted 21 Feb 2008 7:55 pm    
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I got it all changed over and I like the E9 closer.
and the levers do work easier. I can still see the C6 pedals.
It all turned out to be good for me.
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