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Topic: How do I buy a multibender? |
A. J. Martinez
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Posted 24 Jan 2008 7:55 pm |
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| somebody please help me out. i want to buy a duesenberg multi bender. i've gone to their website and i can't figure out how to make the purchase. is there somebody out there that can lead the way? please and thank you A.J. |
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Steinar Gregertsen
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Arendal, Norway, R.I.P.
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A. J. Martinez
From:
Ca.
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Posted 24 Jan 2008 10:25 pm
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| Steinar thank you for your reply...I will try an e-mail to them and hope for the best. A.J. |
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Don Kona Woods
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Hawaiian Kama'aina
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Posted 25 Jan 2008 12:40 am
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| Can't help you much with the German unfortunately.. |
Maybe this will help!
DUESENBERG MULTIBENDER
Replacementbridge für ST-Style Gitarren-
Replacement Bridge for ST-style guitars
realistische Pedal Steel Sounds
realistic Pedal Steel sounds
einfachste Montage
Easy installation
incl. 2 Hebel
Includes 2 Levers
30 Tage Money Back Garantie
30-day money-back guarantee
Montage auf Strat Style Gitarre: Einfach die sechs Standardschrauben der Tremolobefestigung benutzen und die auf der Rückseite befindliche Klammer in der Tremolofräsung befestigen.
Stratford mounting on guitar style: Easy, the six standard bolts fastening the tremolo use and on the back brace located in the Tremolofräsung fasten.
That`s it !!
Aloha, 
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Roman Sonnleitner
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Vienna, Austria
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Harry Dietrich
From:
Robesonia, Pennsylvania, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 25 Jan 2008 8:11 am
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Don
I didn't know you were German...I always thought you were Hawaiian. 
Just kidding 
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Ali Lexa
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Los Angeles, California, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2008 10:33 am
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They won't be out until Summer.
The store in the US, that I'm sure will be carrying them is Westwood Music http://www.westwoodmusic.com/
You might contact them and let them know you are interested. They probably have more details. They do have Duesneberg guitars in stock.
That Multi Bender on http://www.thomann.de/ is a replacement bridge for a Strat style guitar.
But you could use it to make your own multi-bender lap steel. There's also replacement arms available so you might be able to attach more than two levers.
I think that last phrase on the site would actually be:
Montage auf Strat Style Gitarre: Einfach die sechs Standardschrauben der Tremolo befestigung benutzen und die auf der Rückseite befindliche Klammer in der Tremolo fräsung befestigen.
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Mounts on Strat Style guitars: Simply use the six standard screws of the Tremolo attachment through the receptacles on the Tremolo base, to fasten it.
(I used to live in Germany) 
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Roman Sonnleitner
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Vienna, Austria
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Posted 25 Jan 2008 10:59 am
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Perfect translation, Ali!
BTW, that Multibender for Strats can also be mounted on other guitars and lap steels - you just have to unscrew the block/clamp that would sit inside a Strat's tremolo route, and use the screwhole for an additional, seventh mounting screw! |
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Steinar Gregertsen
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Arendal, Norway, R.I.P.
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Posted 25 Jan 2008 11:50 am
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| Roman Sonnleitner wrote: |
Perfect translation, Ali!
BTW, that Multibender for Strats can also be mounted on other guitars and lap steels - you just have to unscrew the block/clamp that would sit inside a Strat's tremolo route, and use the screwhole for an additional, seventh mounting screw! |
Thanks for the info Roman, I was curious about that since there's plenty of room for one on my Asher EH Junior, but I wasn't sure if it was possible to mount one on it.
Steinar
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Roman Sonnleitner
From:
Vienna, Austria
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Posted 25 Jan 2008 12:38 pm
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Steinar,
do you read German? The Duesenberg USA homepage has a link to a .pdf of a review in the German "Gitarre & Bass" magazine, where somebody mounted the Multibender on a lapsteel. |
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Alan Brookes
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Brummy living in Southern California
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Don Kona Woods
From:
Hawaiian Kama'aina
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Posted 26 Jan 2008 12:38 am
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Harry,
I still am Hawaiian, but I took German for two years at the University. To complete my doctorate I had to pass a proficiency test for translating German.  I did a little cheating here. 
Aloha,
Don |
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Mark Butcher
From:
Scotland
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Posted 26 Jan 2008 2:54 am
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So is anybody using one? How well does it work in practice?
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Mark Mansueto
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Michigan, USA
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Ali Lexa
From:
Los Angeles, California, USA
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Posted 26 Jan 2008 9:37 am
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You mean like these?
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Alan Brookes
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Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 26 Jan 2008 12:02 pm
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What with all the projects I have in hand, I haven't gotten around to building the lap steel with the Duesenberg unit on yet. Maybe I'll build it during the summer.
One thing that I've wondered is that the unit was made for a regular solid electric guitar, in which case the levers would press against one's body, making it stable: on a lap steel the levers don't have such a stable platform, as the instrument is not strapped to one's body. For those who have already built lap steels with benders on, and I've seen several photos on the Forum, is this a problem?
The reason I ask is that I once built a table-model hurdy-gurdy, but when I turned the wheel the whole instrument turned, so I had to clamp it down to a table. On a regular hurdy-gurdy the instrument is strapped to the chest, as on an accordion, and there is no problem. |
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Mark Mansueto
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Michigan, USA
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 26 Jan 2008 6:49 pm
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Sorry if the fluency of the conversation seems interrupted. If you look at the time signatures, Mark and I were typing responses simultaneously and mine hit a few seconds earlier, upsetting the order.
Mark's response was obviously to Ali, as was mine. |
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Ali Lexa
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Los Angeles, California, USA
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Posted 26 Jan 2008 9:43 pm
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Hi Alan,
When I played the Duesenberg Lap Multi-Bender at the NAMM show it felt pretty balanced when I applied the levers. I didn't notice any excessive "torquing" in my lap. You can also see when the designer plays it in that video from NAMM, it looks pretty stable http://fr.audiofanzine.com/videos/index,action,play,id_video,102.html
You make Hurdy Gurdies too?!
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Mark Butcher
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Scotland
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Posted 27 Jan 2008 1:55 am
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I made a lap steel which I fitted with Epiphone 'Ezey' benders. They attach to a Gibson style stop tailpiece. I extended the levers to bring them to the best position for my picking hand. In practice I never use them. A half tone bend is OK but the full tone has too much travel and needs too much mechanical effort so they interfere with my picking too much. The engineering of this one looks much better but I'm reluctant to cough up £150 to find out. I also really want a third lever that lowers or better still lowers and raises a half tone. A truly portable pedal steel replacement has great allure!
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Alan Brookes
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Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 27 Jan 2008 12:25 pm
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| Ali Lexa wrote: |
| ...You make Hurdy Gurdies too?! |
I've only built one. I play a lot of mediaeval music, and build up multiple track recordings made on instruments that I've built. I started my way working through building medieaval instruments in the 70s, and I'm still working on it. So far I've built hummels, dulcimers (hammer and plucked), bowed kneeharps, citterns, a hurdy-gurdy, a rebec, a strohfidl, psalteries, a tromba marina, a mediaeval guitar, etc. I've also converted 6-string classical guitars to 10-string (5 course).
...but that's getting off the subject.
I originally thought of building a lap steel with both palm levers and a Hipshot Trilogy, but found that they were incompatable. The Duesenberg I bought has 4 levers. I intend to build it into an 8-string instrument, but I haven't yet decided whether it will be a lap steel or a resonator guitar or what.
I've made a mock-up which I'm still working on, amongst all my other projects...
The fittings aren't screwed down yet. This shot shows a Trilogy in place, but I might use palm levers instead. It's one of those projects I fiddle with every few weeks, so it's a long-term project.
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Mark Butcher
From:
Scotland
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Posted 27 Jan 2008 2:05 pm
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Hi Alan, you say you intend making an 8 string does that mean The Duesenberg you bought is for 8 strings not 6? Maybe I do need to buy one!
Mark
PS I make instruments and then multitrack them as well, seems we have simular interests. |
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 27 Jan 2008 6:07 pm
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Mark: The Duesenberg I bought was for 6 strings. They don't make them for 8 strings, but it shouldn't be too difficult to adapt it. One way would be to have the 7th and 8th strings pass to the side of the Duesenberg on a parallel bridge, since it's unlikely you would want to put a palm lever on either of those strings. Alternatively, if one had a machine shop it wouldn't be too difficult to make a new frame. After all, the working parts just consist of the palm levers, and they're on a spindle. The Hipshot Trilogy IS made in an 8-string version.
Because of the way the palm levers are designed, even though you can raise or lower the strings, I'm not sure one could successfully put multiple strings on the same lever and replicate pedal steel tunings exactly.
I'm wondering if anyone has adapted an existing lap steel or console steel, such as a Stringmaster, to take palm levers. I know it's been done with resonator guitars.
Yes, Mark, we seem to have a lot in common. I was brought up in Birmingham, and I have ancestors in Inverness. Let me have your address and I'll send you some of my CDs. They're mostly British folk music played on mediaeval instruments... lute, cittern, etc. Drop me a line at afbrookes@aol.com.
This is my daughter looking out of the window of the room in Edinburgh Castle in which Mary Queen of Scots was held under house arrest for many years.
...and here am I checking out the state of the armaments.  |
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Mark Butcher
From:
Scotland
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Posted 28 Jan 2008 5:59 am
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This is the lap steel with the benders. This has evolved. The bridge is filed flat. Rollers would be better but roller bridges have too much radius on them. It stays in tune pretty well but the long travel for the whole tone bend and the short travel of the half tone bend just disturbs the flow of my picking. I have a Sho-bud six feet away too so this hangs on the wall.
Its tuned E - F# - G#(A) - B(C#) - D# - F# Emaj9
Mark |
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Steve Atwood
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